The Tom Bower Book Discussion.

Harry looked like terrible today. Was he wasted or has it finally sunk in that all is lost?

by Anonymousreply 1July 18, 2022 11:03 PM

Harry looked and sounded hungover, but considering the smattering of an audience, none of whom were paying much of attention, it didn't matter.

by Anonymousreply 2July 18, 2022 11:12 PM

They remind me of that pair of losers from the cancelled ‘Housewives of D.C.’ who crashed Obama’s state dinner. Psychologically flawed, codependent blaggers extraordinaire. The newbies are a bit richer though.

by Anonymousreply 3July 18, 2022 11:18 PM

Whatever facility Spotify created for podcasts there’s no way that it could possibly meet the standards of the Duchess of Doritos.

by Anonymousreply 4July 18, 2022 11:28 PM

[quote]none of whom were paying much of attention, it didn't matter.

The person who videoed their interaction (r590 in the previous thread) was paying attention. It'll matter if that clip trends, at least to the staff that will have to go out and buy another round of replacement crockery at the Santa Barbara Pottery Barn.

The new L.A. digs at the link. Too many prying eyes and no private rooms for the Duchess?

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by Anonymousreply 5July 18, 2022 11:35 PM

Her forehead is shiny and lumpy from Botox. It emphasizes her receding hairline. She forgot to bronze her part which only makes it worse.

Those eyebrows looked overly painted on and unnatural.

The shirt is ill fitting and shows her nipples.

The video of Harry trying to get away from her is shocking and sad. He looks angry and barely holding in his fury when she takes his entire arm.

by Anonymousreply 6July 18, 2022 11:36 PM

Has Meghan fallen into the bronzer tank again?

Her face looks dark orange.

by Anonymousreply 7July 18, 2022 11:37 PM

No doubt his anger stems from the 11 people in the audience. Seriously, he could have just done a Zoom…

by Anonymousreply 8July 18, 2022 11:37 PM

She's emulating The Orange Menace aka Donald Trump.

by Anonymousreply 9July 18, 2022 11:39 PM

I almost (note I said almost) feel sorry for Harry at that UN speech.He must have felt so humiliated when he saw the room/

by Anonymousreply 10July 18, 2022 11:41 PM

Or angry and stressed by reporters shouting questions about the book at him across the entry concourse?

by Anonymousreply 11July 18, 2022 11:45 PM

R6, could you post a link to the video you referenced?

by Anonymousreply 12July 18, 2022 11:45 PM

The comments below that Twitter link ….

by Anonymousreply 14July 19, 2022 12:01 AM

R7 Well she is the female African-American Democrat version of Trump in terms of being an asshole grifter with a shit ton of deluded psycho followers.

by Anonymousreply 15July 19, 2022 12:12 AM

Another disastrous Sussex outing admidst the atomic bomb that is the Bower book. It is pre-selling well, and he is doing advance interviews.

by Anonymousreply 16July 19, 2022 12:13 AM

Thanks R13. That is definitely uncomfortable to watch.

by Anonymousreply 17July 19, 2022 12:19 AM

I hate PDA. Just hate it.

by Anonymousreply 19July 19, 2022 12:30 AM

Is it only me, or did it seem that the previously ubiquitous Netflix crew was suspiciously missing on this latest outing?

If so, could signal trouble in Hollywood deal paradise....

by Anonymousreply 20July 19, 2022 12:34 AM

[quote]Or angry and stressed by reporters shouting questions about the book at him across the entry concourse?

Would the press Rota that follows royals in the UK have behaved this way shouting questions about a salacious book that's about to publish? I've read that the palace and press organizations there have an arrangement that certain topics can't be broached in return for continued access. Also, that the British press knows many, many more unflattering details about the family that they will not print per the agreement. Essentially, they're more protected there despite Harry's hate of journalists.

by Anonymousreply 21July 19, 2022 12:49 AM

Why is the book out in the US?

by Anonymousreply 23July 19, 2022 1:01 AM

He looks depressed and fed up with her clinging to his arm. She's gritting her teeth and looking attentive.

by Anonymousreply 24July 19, 2022 1:06 AM

Whoa.

Bowers says he goes in deep on Doria and her "mysterious past". He outright accuses her of "engineering the split between Meghan and her father" because "she wanted in on the money that fame."

Shots FIRED!

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by Anonymousreply 25July 19, 2022 1:17 AM

She doesn't look at all like the Wyoming pictures where she appeared skinny.

by Anonymousreply 26July 19, 2022 1:17 AM

That's because the Wyoming photos were 'shopped. And for R21, no, no rota reporter would have been shouting out questions like that at Prince Harry or Meg in the UK if they were still part of the BRF. That isn't how it's done. See, for example, the raised eyebrows when some Sky reporter asked William if his family was "racist" after the Oprah interview. The American press is both weirdly more gullible AND less deferential then the UK press when it comes to the ex royals.

by Anonymousreply 27July 19, 2022 1:21 AM

“Mandela spent 27 years behind bars in SA.

Markle spent 18 months in castles and complained on tv during a pandemic.

Why are they here?”

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by Anonymousreply 28July 19, 2022 1:24 AM

Thanks, r27. I was thinking about the incident when William was asked if the family is racist and tried to think of other occasions when a royal was kind of ambushed with such a pointed question. I couldn't think of any. Didn't Harry realize this? Even I had a fuzzy notion that it wasn't done and certain things are out of bounds. Could you imagine Andrew's meltdown if he'd been shouted questions when he was removed from his trade ambassador position? Nevermind when his picture strolling in NYC with Epstein.

by Anonymousreply 29July 19, 2022 1:34 AM

I don’t see the Bowers book out on Amazon

by Anonymousreply 30July 19, 2022 1:40 AM

R30 The Book Depository. Free shipping.

by Anonymousreply 31July 19, 2022 1:54 AM

Harry's whore and her supporters already have a failsafe rebuttal to any and all of Mr Bower's points: he's a straight white man

by Anonymousreply 32July 19, 2022 2:02 AM

The Spectator [newly launched U.S. edition]:

Hed: Prince Harry needs to shut up about our Constitution already

dek: The former royal thinks he knows what’s best for Americans

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by Anonymousreply 33July 19, 2022 2:13 AM

From Part I:

[quote]My fav bit from this article: Meghan pitching the idea of herself as a celebrity chef, but she can’t cook. So then pitched traveling the world to try different foods, but “a short video of her tasting pickles in Brooklyn exposed her limitations.”

I would have thought "tasting" "pickles" would be one of her skills.

by Anonymousreply 34July 19, 2022 2:23 AM

I see what you did there, r34

Naughty naughty...

by Anonymousreply 35July 19, 2022 2:25 AM

I’ve read a few posts suggesting that Meghan was Harry’s ticket out….that he wanted to leave for a long time. Chelsy didn’t want to live the royal life and is loaded. Both could have lived a quiet life in Africa. Why didn’t that happen? Was that just a public excuse for leaving a Harry? Chelsy appears to be very happy in both her professional and personal life today.

by Anonymousreply 36July 19, 2022 2:52 AM

Apparently, r36 Chelsy's billionaire father was sucking up to the S.A. government at the time and, irony of ironies considering Harry's speech today,, that government had read about Harry's racist remarks and took exception to doing business with a man whose family behaved like that.

Also, Harry was a pain in the ass who cheated on Chelsea, and Chelsy had better things to do than be made fun of daily by the UK media, which is what it was like for all married-ins back then. Until ,of course the arrival of protected-by-skin colour Meghan, who if you remember, was given the kid-glove treatment for the first two years.

by Anonymousreply 37July 19, 2022 2:58 AM

I was lost! (in the other thread about the Bower book). Did it get firewalled?

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by Anonymousreply 38July 19, 2022 3:06 AM

[quote] Would the press Rota that follows royals in the UK have behaved this way shouting questions about a salacious book that's about to publish? I've read that the palace and press organizations there have an arrangement that certain topics can't be broached in return for continued access. Also, that the British press knows many, many more unflattering details about the family that they will not print per the agreement. Essentially, they're more protected there despite Harry's hate of journalists.

That's no longer in effect for Harry and Meghan now they've left the royal family.

All those little perks and protections they used to get are now gone.

by Anonymousreply 39July 19, 2022 3:11 AM

Why the hell isn’t this book going to be on Amazon Kindle in the US?

by Anonymousreply 41July 19, 2022 4:13 AM

Meghan and Harry, in such danger that they are suing Harry's grandmother in order to demand that they get Charles and William level of police protection in Britain...

Happily roll down their limo window as they drive away from the UN, in one of the most dangerous cities in America.

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by Anonymousreply 42July 19, 2022 4:32 AM

Definitely not the same person.

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by Anonymousreply 44July 19, 2022 5:18 AM

That first photo is an example of why pleats are a bad idea.

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by Anonymousreply 45July 19, 2022 5:36 AM

R44 She's skin walking as Diana again. Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 46July 19, 2022 5:38 AM

She either had Kybella or something else done to her neck. I think the PJ and Invictus photos really got to her.

by Anonymousreply 47July 19, 2022 5:41 AM

She was exposed as a thieving, lying grifter. How can she walk out so smug? Has she no shame?

by Anonymousreply 48July 19, 2022 5:46 AM

[quote] Duchess described Prince Harry's reaction to the news as 'guttural'

It was what? Did she perhaps mean “visceral”?

by Anonymousreply 50July 19, 2022 6:10 AM

re R44

She NEVER fails to miss the camera.

by Anonymousreply 51July 19, 2022 6:43 AM

Botox bumps and some weird thing happening with her hair.

Receding hairline? Is baldness catching in Montecito?

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by Anonymousreply 52July 19, 2022 6:56 AM

Harry fluffing out his hair to cover the baldness makes him look like he has gone to seed, I think that didn't help today.

by Anonymousreply 53July 19, 2022 7:16 AM

Did Meghan wish her father a happy birthday yesterday?

by Anonymousreply 54July 19, 2022 7:17 AM

Anyone know of a really dark, long car tunnel in the US that isn’t well lit or guarded? Asking for a friend who would like to hire a fancy sport car and driver to take some ungrateful grandchildren for a ride…….

by Anonymousreply 55July 19, 2022 7:20 AM

As for her pickle tasting, it is pretty bad when Z List Haylie Duff got her own show and Smegs couldn't.

by Anonymousreply 56July 19, 2022 7:25 AM

[quote] Receding hairline? Is baldness catching in Montecito?

R52 It's genetics. Doria has the same receding hair line.

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by Anonymousreply 57July 19, 2022 7:27 AM

When you realise that your phoney wife and her fake friends sold you a fake story of success and that life outside of the UK is rough for a british prince with low IQ...#MeghanMarkleExposed #TomBower #MeghanMarkleisaLiar

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by Anonymousreply 58July 19, 2022 7:28 AM

Oh my - that IS great, r59.

by Anonymousreply 60July 19, 2022 7:48 AM

She obviously had some fillers injected prior to that UN event and her stunt with Gloria Steinem. That's why she didn't show her face in those pics from Wyoming.

by Anonymousreply 61July 19, 2022 8:01 AM

Princess Polio-legs at R44 looks truly sinister when she's looking at the camera. Watch out, Gloria!

by Anonymousreply 62July 19, 2022 9:57 AM

William's speech. Harry's speech.

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by Anonymousreply 63July 19, 2022 10:19 AM

That’s what I thought, R50. “Guttural” indeed - Dunning-Kruger effect in action.

by Anonymousreply 64July 19, 2022 10:25 AM

Gawd Almighty. Harry was probably too drunk and incapacitated to utter any effect at all.

He and his wife will be examples for the ages.

by Anonymousreply 65July 19, 2022 11:12 AM

That Twitter video is horrifying. Harry looks like a hunted man.

by Anonymousreply 66July 19, 2022 11:23 AM

At what point does Harry miss his mates and realize how miserable his life is?

by Anonymousreply 67July 19, 2022 11:25 AM

This sounds devastating and soul-destroying.

[quote]Speaking to The Morning Show, Mr Ford said: "It was a very informal gathering. It was basically turn up if you like.

[quote]"Clearly a lot of people chose to not turn up.

[quote]"There were a lot of empty seats. They could have brought in the seat fillers just to fill those seats.

[quote]"Netflix was obviously filming all this because they want to include this in the upcoming Harry and Meghan show.

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by Anonymousreply 68July 19, 2022 11:27 AM

NetFlix must surely have enough footage of the markles to do a hit job by now. And that's the only way they'll get the money they invested in these two back.

by Anonymousreply 69July 19, 2022 11:31 AM

Harry looks terrible. I don’t mean “ugly”; he looks like he’s suffering from depression.

by Anonymousreply 70July 19, 2022 11:32 AM

I've no sympathy for Harry (regarding his sparse audience at the UN). The way he has treated his family - especially the Queen - is disgraceful. He would have to plumb many more depths of humiliation before I'd feel sorry for him, if I ever could.

by Anonymousreply 71July 19, 2022 11:33 AM

“A lot chose not to turn up”

The UN is not in session, it’s mid-July and hotter than hell in NYC and nobody of interest is speaking. Why would anyone show up? I don’t even think any of the media sent their A-level reporters. Why didn’t Sunshine Sachs send some seat fillers?

by Anonymousreply 72July 19, 2022 11:36 AM

The British secret service keeps trolling DL to protect the "Royal brand". Watch out, Meghan and Harry: youse in danger, girls!

by Anonymousreply 73July 19, 2022 11:36 AM

Well, would you turn up to be lectured about poverty by this unlettered, unaccomplished, over-indulged prince?

by Anonymousreply 74July 19, 2022 11:40 AM

R72, they really did not. There was a brief mention on NY1, and I think they had a junior reporter on the scene at one point. It was at the very top of the news for ten seconds and then there was a much longer story about the shootings over the weekend.

by Anonymousreply 75July 19, 2022 11:42 AM

R74, I would have expected to hear about Nelson Mandela.

But I didn’t want to hear anything that any of those people said. It was a lot of virtue-signaling and word salad. Eric Adams was the worsr, but at least he pretended to care, and had some inflection.

by Anonymousreply 76July 19, 2022 11:43 AM

The big mistake was the poor 18 souls who were frogmarched into the lecture still had their phones. Netflix got the clips of them looking at their phones or chatting to each other while Dimmer was lecturing. Next time you force people at gunpoint to attend a Hazmat fun fest make sure you also confiscate their phones, FFS!! I thought Everyone knew that one!

by Anonymousreply 77July 19, 2022 11:44 AM

R46 Like Diana and Mother Theresa. Poor old Gloria.

by Anonymousreply 78July 19, 2022 11:49 AM

The Queen was very close friends with Mandela after he was released.

Not least because she had previously taken the very unusual - for her - step of secretly campaigning for his release for year upon year until his release was accomplished.

Harry mentioned Diana, his wife, his kids, the present day S.A. government who have destroyed what Mandela was building with such skill, and MAndela's shirts, but made no mention of his Grandmother. I understand if he could not mention her role in his release, but he could have mentioned that Mandela was the only contemporary of QEII who called her "Elizabeth" in conversation. No one else - only he was allowed to do this. In turn she called him "a wonderful man". They had a fantastic relationship, but Harry has to keep up the profitable lie he told Oprah that the BRF are "racist", so he ommitted it.

He's scum.

by Anonymousreply 79July 19, 2022 11:51 AM

I'm not at all " worried" about Harry, don't care about his mEnTaL hEaLtH, and just see his eternal resting bitch face in every pic. Loser.

by Anonymousreply 80July 19, 2022 12:41 PM

The obsession with the Sussexes is beyond belief.

by Anonymousreply 81July 19, 2022 12:43 PM

Yes, r81. Your obsession with the Sussexes IS rather concerning. Otherwise why are you here?

by Anonymousreply 82July 19, 2022 12:50 PM

This whole situation is so incredibly ugly. I find it depressing rather than titillating.

by Anonymousreply 83July 19, 2022 12:55 PM

I don’t understand why they don’t just go live a quiet life. I guess all this hopping around is to generate Netflix content? Otherwise, isn’t this the stuff they supposedly wanted to leave behind?

by Anonymousreply 84July 19, 2022 1:21 PM

R81, what's beyond belief is you say that every time. Can't they write you some other canned expression just to mix it up a bit?

by Anonymousreply 85July 19, 2022 1:22 PM

R48, no self-awareness. But then, if you're going to be that and do that, you couldn't, could you?

by Anonymousreply 86July 19, 2022 1:23 PM

[quote]Why didn’t Sunshine Sachs send some seat fillers?

How could that be permitted? It's the UN, not the Oscars. There are placards at every seat indicating what country is being represented by the person(s) occupying them. Having seat fillers would be a bold faced lie. Of course, that wouldn't deter the Harkles from trying it. Someone else (with brains) probably squashed the idea.

by Anonymousreply 87July 19, 2022 1:24 PM

Hey, Zwahibiland, could we use your chair? We'll give you this great desk air conditioner from Ronco if you'll sign this release.

by Anonymousreply 88July 19, 2022 1:26 PM

Harry has the same beaten-down resigned air of Chris Watts. Of course I don’t wish the same fate for Meghan and the little Harkles, but it feels like the same dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 89July 19, 2022 1:28 PM

It’s hilarious to see vain controlling Meghan in a lighting situation that wasn’t designed for celebrities. Most people at the UN do not give a shit about their appearance. They don’t care about posing under a harsh overhead light that accentuates their brow ridges, nose shadows and dodgy hair situations.

Pose as if your life depends on it.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 19, 2022 1:38 PM

It’s hard to believe that a very public collapse of their US dream is not imminent. The inherited money must be coming to an end , and Harry especially must find the obligation to continue failing more than he can bear psychologically at this point. We know they couldn’t cope with the generally quite warm coverage they received as newly weds. How on earth do they cope with the coverage of their two year string of failure and humiliation?

by Anonymousreply 92July 19, 2022 1:39 PM

The Mail, what a bitch: " The comments, heard by a mostly-empty room at the United Nations on Monday morning, were the latest broadside at US politicians."

by Anonymousreply 93July 19, 2022 1:42 PM

Nothing like the Mail's snark. Its appeal for me is that, of all critical commentary, it's the stuff that Harry and Meghan are most likely to read.

by Anonymousreply 94July 19, 2022 1:45 PM

Props to her stylist. The backfat was barely noticeable after the Olive Garden.

by Anonymousreply 95July 19, 2022 1:48 PM

The hand holding has now become like the pregnant bump stroking. Enough!

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by Anonymousreply 97July 19, 2022 1:58 PM

Finally. I'll take the credit. Thank You.

Since Markle still was a "working" Royal, I've consistently pointed out that her fashion disasters could be attributed to her straying from clean, almost severe, tailoring lines and into frou-frou prints, bows, belts, too much everything.

Observe her UN outfit and this evening restaurant jumpsuit. Not an ounce of extraneous texture, clean and simple. That's when she looks her best.

If Markle had the height, body and budget for custom-tailoring it, she could wear Yohji Yamamoto who was Carolyn Bessette Kennedy's favorite designer. He perfected "less is more".

But for every step forward, there is a step back: those pleated lunch shorts are high-end Girl Scout and Brownie Den Mom.

by Anonymousreply 98July 19, 2022 2:08 PM

You can hardly take credit for that obsevation, Della.

We didn't call her "Dangling Tendrils" as far back as 2015 because we're blind, dear.

by Anonymousreply 99July 19, 2022 2:40 PM

*sigh*

And that you thought I wasn't being facetious is telling.

*eyeroll*

Anyway, Steinem lunched many times with Jackie O. Now, it's Markle. Death, Time, Aging, you ruthless bitches.

by Anonymousreply 100July 19, 2022 2:47 PM

Sigh all you want, Della, so long as you stop posting patronising and irrelevant nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 101July 19, 2022 2:49 PM

The writer of the VF article who talked to Bower is now walking back his comments. He wrote a letter to the editor of The Times and it’s been screenshotted on Twitter. Valentine Low might have it.

Said she never made fun of his stutter which he doesn’t have; he admires her activism and regretted that the P&G stuff wasn’t in the article; and he found her warm and engaging or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 102July 19, 2022 2:56 PM

Oh, look, the Thought Police have arrived at r101.

"so long as you stop posting..."

LOL!

I haven't stopped posting since 2002.

I've been flamed by the best of 'em and compared to them, you're a malfunctioning Bic Lighter.

You want patronising? Here, I'll give you patronising:

I'm the moon who is deigning to acknowledge a barking dog- you.

by Anonymousreply 103July 19, 2022 2:57 PM

Good god, Meghan loves the cameras. She literally looks like she took a hit of the good stuff the minute she sees her (paid) paps. She cannot contain her glee even in front of Harry who clearly despises their presence.

by Anonymousreply 104July 19, 2022 2:57 PM

They are so depressing. Also depressing are Gloria Steinem's comments about the pair in the Mail article calling them "chosen family" and saying it's important for them to speak out 🙄 on the issues Harry talked about because they have our trust. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 105July 19, 2022 2:58 PM

R102, he says he does not have stutter. He does not deny that Meghan commented on his supposed stutter. In fact. he doesn't deny any of Bower's assertions. I hope Bower responds today.

by Anonymousreply 106July 19, 2022 2:59 PM

Here is the Times letter on Scobie’s Twitter

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by Anonymousreply 107July 19, 2022 3:00 PM

Kashner's last paragraph is so over the top. "Love match"? What on Earth does that have to do with rebutting Bower's book? Is he rebutting Bower's interpretation of his interview of Meghan - or - is he trying to fluff up Harry into believing he did not make a colossal mistake in marrying Meghan?

by Anonymousreply 108July 19, 2022 3:04 PM

The video of she and Harry leaving the restaurant, he looks grimly ahead, she is a half step behind so he doesn’t block her. She smiles and looks right and left so everyone can get the shot.

by Anonymousreply 109July 19, 2022 3:05 PM

Sounds more like he was upset he was portrayed as having a slight speech impediment than anything. I'd assume he's walking back on his statement so he can continue to interview people, and feel like a trusted writer. But really he should know, if you don't want something printed, don't talk to writers!

by Anonymousreply 110July 19, 2022 3:05 PM

Sure honey, Suit yourself, r103.

by Anonymousreply 111July 19, 2022 3:09 PM

Harry hasn't had all of his inheritance yet. There's a big lump sum coming from the Queen Mother. It was placed in trust and Princess Anne is in charge of it. She keeps changing the age at which he can have it. Why do you think markle is still hanging onto him?

by Anonymousreply 112July 19, 2022 3:11 PM

[quote]If Markle had the height, body and budget for custom-tailoring

Big if.

by Anonymousreply 113July 19, 2022 3:11 PM

I wonder if letters were written after warnings were made with regard to future access to other people.

by Anonymousreply 114July 19, 2022 3:13 PM

When does this fuckin book come out in the US? Why doesn’t it show up on Amazon? Or B&N?

by Anonymousreply 115July 19, 2022 3:13 PM

Is there any factual rebuttal in Kashner's letter to the Times?

All he says is "I don't have a stutter ( although he does not deny she said he did) and I want the Harkles to consider me for their post-Hindenberg interview, when the time comes"

by Anonymousreply 116July 19, 2022 3:13 PM

r107 Just the fact he refers to Meghan as gracious is a massive red flag he is now talking bullshit. Its too over the top.

by Anonymousreply 117July 19, 2022 3:15 PM

R116, there’s no factual rebuttal. It’s unclear what he intended to say. It’s odd that he allows that he might have a “stammer” but denies having a “stutter.” They’re the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 120July 19, 2022 3:16 PM

Maybe he was stammering, Woody Allen-style because her beauty and charm threw him off balance? (He’s got the sex appeal of Woody Allen, but when Madam wants something, she can get past ugly).

by Anonymousreply 121July 19, 2022 3:16 PM

Yes, S.A. r119. I was never very good at Germanic names (and see no particular reason to improve myself on that score).

by Anonymousreply 122July 19, 2022 3:20 PM

[quote]The video of Harry trying to get away from her is shocking and sad. He looks angry and barely holding in his fury when she takes his entire arm.

Haz looks like a dog on a leash in that twitter video; you can just imagine the thoughts running through his head "I gave up cushy, if stifling, existence for this?"

I'm calling it now: by Christmas she's telling everyone who will listen that Haz is suffering terribly under the weight of psychological cruelty from his family, Harry (frequently) appears drunk or high and Megs makes noises about taking the children and leaving him but she has nowhere to *go* as she is now a hunted woman, like Dear Sainted Di!

by Anonymousreply 123July 19, 2022 3:20 PM

Hope Kash. consulted his lawyers. If Bowers has him recorded or in writing that he signed off on his comments, he will get it in the neck for sure.

Franky Kash should get the gist that he is signing on to a sinking ship. When they don't need him they will cut him faster than Megs finding the camera.

Sunshine is a biz. No money, no spin. if the duo don't have a new money supplier they will run out of money sooner than later. Hollywood plastic surgery ain't cheap among all the other costs, including taking care of any loose lips. Wonder what they have to give that Soho guy to keep him sweet. Wonder how much Soobie Doo gets paid, of does he take it out in trade, i.e. Harry.

by Anonymousreply 124July 19, 2022 3:21 PM

I think it's deliberate that he singled out the USA for criticism of political decisions, but why? ofall the nations with worse human rights records. He lives there, so for a start it was not the place nor the forum for domestic politics. As a non-US citizen it is not his business, he must have known doing this as "Prince " was fucking stupid.

Does Madame Defarge think this will help her in her political ambitions?

Maybe if I read this book I might understand more, but it just seems like they are a 2 man wrecking crew on their quest for world domination. All they achieve is to look more like self-centred fools.

by Anonymousreply 125July 19, 2022 3:34 PM

Wait. They have friends?!!

by Anonymousreply 126July 19, 2022 3:43 PM

To be fair, R25, Bower said he spent 2 days with Thomas Markle, from who he heard that Doria engineered the split.

I like to have catty fun and M&H's expense, but there's no reason to treat Thomas Markle as a reliable source on that.

by Anonymousreply 127July 19, 2022 3:44 PM

I think that's fair enough, r127.

But there is no denying that, as elegant and perfectly behaved as she is, she is also sketchy as hell.

by Anonymousreply 128July 19, 2022 3:47 PM

The Harkles ARE a perfect love match. He did not lie.

by Anonymousreply 129July 19, 2022 3:50 PM

If I may say so, I TOLD YOU in the last thread that the Vanity Fair excerpt was the one that would light the Montecito Mongrels' relationship on fire.

Also, randoms are already noting that Kashner's letter hasn't actually denied anything published in the excerpt.

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by Anonymousreply 131July 19, 2022 3:56 PM

When does the next excerpts drop ?

by Anonymousreply 133July 19, 2022 4:20 PM

R97 Honestly Meghan looks like she's wearing the knock off version for Kate's outfit...maybe Meghan got it from Reitmans?

Honestly you have to be blind to suggest Harry looks anything less than utterly miserable. I'm seriously concerned he will try to off himself.

In other news, Megz people have been in touch with the Vogue journalist who spoke on record to Tom Bower. He has released a statement saying how much he admires Meghan but he never once denies speaking to Bower or that Vogue couldn't find any evidence of Meghan's charitable work. You can tell she is fuming behind the scenes and I love it.

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by Anonymousreply 134July 19, 2022 4:34 PM

There are no more upcoming excerpts, r133. The book comes out in the UK on Thursday.

by Anonymousreply 135July 19, 2022 4:34 PM

[quote]When will I find it at Costco?

Most importantly. We don't want anybody twisting into "I'm a best seller!"

by Anonymousreply 136July 19, 2022 4:39 PM

I wonder what Omid Scobie is getting out of whoring himself out to Meghan Markle.

Backhanders: quite possibly.

Kudos as one intersectional (gay, half-Iranian) helping another (woman, some black ancestry): definitely.

But if he thinks that he wouldn't get Markled - swiftly and mercilessly - if she ever saw fit to do so, then he must be incredibly dumb. I hope the current perks make it worth it, because the rug is liable to be pulled from under him someday.

by Anonymousreply 137July 19, 2022 5:39 PM

r137 Money he would not be paid by anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 139July 19, 2022 6:17 PM

r122 Oh I wasn't having a pop! I was more indicating that I haven't a clue what your reference means I'm other words I was revealing my ignorance!

by Anonymousreply 140July 19, 2022 6:18 PM

No worries, SA I didn't think you were saying anything insulting - apologies if it came off that way.

No, what I was referring to was the Hindenberg Explosion.

It seems to me that the Harkles are headed for one come the 21st.

by Anonymousreply 141July 19, 2022 6:23 PM

r141 Arr OK that makes sense now thanks. No matter how hard you seal a pressure cooker it always has to release or explode sometime!

by Anonymousreply 142July 19, 2022 6:28 PM

R134 All this statement shows is that Meghan is bothered by what is being written about her can't keep her mouth shut. She should take a page from the Queen's book and never explain, never complain. Just try and rise above it, but that's not Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 143July 19, 2022 6:40 PM

R137, sunk cost fallacy at this point.

by Anonymousreply 144July 19, 2022 6:47 PM

True, R127. Maybe Markle Sr. was able to provide solid evidence such as formal custody agreements, etc.? Regardless, I totally believe Doria was AWOL for most of Meghan's childhood. I almost feel sorry for Meghan she really had no chance in turning out normal.

by Anonymousreply 145July 19, 2022 6:58 PM

Yikes....her stylish must hate her.

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by Anonymousreply 146July 19, 2022 7:00 PM

The bum pad placed on that flat ass surely evens out the bucket of back fat.

by Anonymousreply 147July 19, 2022 7:25 PM

This thing is about to be exposed big time ! She deserves it.

by Anonymousreply 148July 19, 2022 7:59 PM

I don't like the Sussexes at all, but some of you keep switching it up with these stupid childish nicknames for them that ceased to be funny long ago, and which are confusing more than anything else.

by Anonymousreply 149July 19, 2022 8:05 PM

I actually feel sorry for Meghan. Sounds like she was basically abandoned by her mother and her father is a trashy nutjob.

What I don’t get is her irrationally high opinion of herself. I mean, she did a cupcake major at an ok university. She’s passably cute after several plastic surgeries. But she’s never been a great beauty. No acting talent or any other discernible talent.

So why the high opinion of herself? Though I suppose that’s what narcissism is.

by Anonymousreply 150July 19, 2022 8:32 PM

R150, it’s a defense mechanism. She was abandoned by her mother, rejected by the person who should have loved her the most. That’s horrible. She has to work every day to convince herself that she’s actually great, she’s wonderful, she’s perfect. No wonder she seems so fake, why she can’t interact with anyone in a way that seems normal.

by Anonymousreply 151July 19, 2022 8:40 PM

r150, you answered your question in your first paragraph. Typically narcissists were not given the right kind of love and attention from their parents, and they become obsessed with loving themselves as an adult.

by Anonymousreply 152July 19, 2022 8:40 PM

R114 order it from book depository.

by Anonymousreply 153July 19, 2022 8:53 PM

You feel sorry for Meghan? Why? She has a proven history of bad behavior, treating people like shit, and discarding them when no longer useful. She went to Oprah and told a truckload of lies on national TV with the express purpose of slandering the BRF. She committed perjury. Plus, She used the funeral of her husband’s grandfather to merch a fucking wreath. She’s a horrible person and merits all the derision she’s getting.

by Anonymousreply 154July 19, 2022 11:26 PM

Did she get some lipo on her back fat? It doesn't look that hideous in the Copy Kate jumpsuit. But I love one picture of her in the Daily Mail. Looks like the price tag is still on the bottom of one of her shoes. HA! She will never ever get it. Ever.

by Anonymousreply 155July 20, 2022 12:03 AM

The white part of that jumpsuit deflects from the back fat, it is still here.

by Anonymousreply 156July 20, 2022 12:05 AM

No, the fat is still there. You can see the rolls through the white shirt, above her training bra

by Anonymousreply 157July 20, 2022 12:06 AM

Thanks r153, I’ve pre-ordered it

by Anonymousreply 158July 20, 2022 12:07 AM

I'm sorry for the frail and elderly Gloria Steinem She's old and her people aren't as sharp as they used to be, protecting her from opportunists, yet here she is barely fiddling through a photo op for Meghan, WHO CANNOT STOP SEARCHING FOR A FUCKING PHOTO OP, EVEN AS SHE LEADS AN 80 y.o to her car! Hug me! It's necessary before you get in your car, BITCH!!!

by Anonymousreply 159July 20, 2022 12:17 AM

R152 - the best information I can find is that it's strongly believed that narcissistic personality disorder is 50% due to hereditary/genetics and 50% environment. Looks like one or both of her parents were narcissists so there's that part -- the other part, is a chaotic or disordered childhood, or lack of adequate attachment to a caregiver at a critical age (before age 2 I think). It's complicated. But sadly, common. Maybe as many as 15% of the population? Higher in some ethnic groups which I don't want to go into.

by Anonymousreply 160July 20, 2022 12:21 AM

Oh and some experts say "coddling" can cause it. They call it a form of abuse because you're misleading a child into thinking they deserve "special" treatment -- so then they grow up and continue to expect it from everyone because that's what they were taught from the beginning.

Again, you still also need the genetic component - and even all of that can be overcome by having one reasonable caregiver in your life who overrides all the negative effects of neglect, coddling and/or heredity.

by Anonymousreply 161July 20, 2022 12:23 AM

Sorry for Little Gloria being used? Absolutely not. What goes around comes around.

by Anonymousreply 162July 20, 2022 12:43 AM

[quote] her father is a trashy nutjob.

Schooled her privately.... indulged her on sete.... university educated her.... yes, what a beast.

by Anonymousreply 163July 20, 2022 12:46 AM

Amazon isn’t selling the book.

by Anonymousreply 164July 20, 2022 12:54 AM

R163, you know damn well that people still have abusive crazy homophobic racist parents who’ve done that.

by Anonymousreply 165July 20, 2022 12:55 AM

What is the story behind Doria abandoning Meg?

by Anonymousreply 166July 20, 2022 1:00 AM

Why do you believe Thomas Markle is an abusive, racist, crazy homophobe then, r165? Seriously, before you come off as deranged.

by Anonymousreply 167July 20, 2022 1:01 AM

Apparently that particular story is deeply explored in Bower's book, per his interview with Piers Morgan yesterday, r166

by Anonymousreply 168July 20, 2022 1:02 AM

I loathe the Sussexes but the video was heavily edited to make it look like a glum rejection and pushy controller, while the actual full video shows his touching and hanging on to her and not cringing away. His facial expression has been repeated and seems to have been more momentary.

That said, he had as much place to make public noise about Mr. Mandela as would an aardvark. Horrible. Wrong. Such ugly ambition and whoring, always throwing its dirt on the worthy subjects they target. Does Netflix really think they're getting anything usable out of all this aggressive ass-displaying?

by Anonymousreply 169July 20, 2022 1:10 AM

Tommy Markle fans, go back to LSA

by Anonymousreply 170July 20, 2022 1:23 AM

Too much and never enough - same for Trump, same for sMEGs.

Shit in different colors is still shit.

by Anonymousreply 171July 20, 2022 1:24 AM

What some of you trashy bitches don’t get is parents are SUPPOSED to pay for their kid’s education. You don’t get bonus points for doing the bare minimum.

Have some standards, ladies!

by Anonymousreply 172July 20, 2022 1:29 AM

So what's above and beyond, Emily Post?

by Anonymousreply 173July 20, 2022 1:31 AM

[quote]Thank goodness Meghan isn't coming.

The words that cut the plastic heart out of Grandsonny.

She couldn't have said, "He made a bad match," any clearer.

by Anonymousreply 174July 20, 2022 2:51 AM

So basically they made a donation in exchange for giving a speech to the UN.

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by Anonymousreply 175July 20, 2022 3:51 AM

I'm sure the partnership will yield the same results as all their other hard work. Maybe they could even do a podcast about it!

by Anonymousreply 176July 20, 2022 4:01 AM

NOT that it's to be taken as absolute truth or anything but there's a youtuber who claims he's a narcissist and psychopath (H. G. Tudor) who does dozens of videos about Meghan (and Amber Heard etc etc).... He says, of course, that Meghan is a narcissist (meaning all the way: NPD). BUT he also says Prince Charles is a one too, and Andrew, and Boris Johnson, and yes, Thomas Markle.

However, he maintains that Prince Harry is an "Empath" - oh, and Queen Eliz is a "normal"

I'll let myself out, shall I?....

by Anonymousreply 177July 20, 2022 4:06 AM

Someone on Twitter dug up a factoid from Harry's 2019 tour of South Africa where he told an official he had never seen the picture of Diana with Mandela and yet at the UN he claimed it had been a treasured item since childhood.......

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by Anonymousreply 178July 20, 2022 4:24 AM

I hate to say this, but I think the H&M saga will end with Harry either offing himself or a "Phil Hartman" situation.

by Anonymousreply 179July 20, 2022 4:28 AM

It's looking that way R179. Seems like most times when celebs get themselves in these messes, they have their "people" around - Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, oh I don't know these celeb disastrous marriages that well -- but she got Harry over there so so isolated from not only his lifelong friends and family but from the culture he knows and understands.

How different, the stupid SoCal showbiz shit from the ancient institution and Etonian buddies and pub culture (or whatever the high brow version is - club and hunt culture? I have no idea - but that's just it - it's its own thing. and it's nothing like La La Land. That takes a very resilient person to adapt to, coming from so far outside it, even outside the fucking US.

I keep thinking of a Monty Python sketch about how brainless the nobility are -- I remember an obstacle course for them and one challenge was to get a bra off a mannequin and you see them rolling around on the ground desperately trying to unhook it and they can't. Another part is a woman says her duke or whatever's brain is so tiny you have to bang on his head just right to get him conscious enough to speak words. I know it's ridiculous parody but it sure seems to fit our Harry. Oy.

Put your Nazi outfit back on Harry and go find your KKK and SS costumed school pals. (and get advice from Uncle Andy on where to go from here - he sure ain't gonna off himself no matter what happens - he'll be elbowing himself into as much frivolity as he can manage and cuddling his teddy bear collection every night)

by Anonymousreply 180July 20, 2022 4:40 AM

R177 you lost me at “youtuber.”

by Anonymousreply 181July 20, 2022 4:50 AM

As much as I dislike harry and Meghan, the funny thing is I have no sympathy whatsoever for Harry's Eton friends for Meghan making them not be anti-gay or misogynistic or transphobic in her presence.

They were old enough by then (in their 30s!) to realize they had to grow up and stop making those kind of hateful jokes. You can't be juvenile and obnoxious for your entire life--you have to act like an adult at some point, preferably well before your 30s.

by Anonymousreply 182July 20, 2022 5:53 AM

[quote] I hate to say this, but I think the H&M saga will end with Harry either offing himself or a "Phil Hartman" situation.

I seriously doubt it.

Those two may eventually come to hate each other, but they each love themselves (and always will) far too much to ever commit suicide.

by Anonymousreply 183July 20, 2022 5:55 AM

I'd better see myself out as well, then, R177!

I go through phases of finding H.G. Tudor's work addictive (despite its faults).

I genuinely can't remember, though, whether his final judgment on Harry was that he is an empath? I'm just asking as he frequently mentions Harry's narcissistic traits; these are part of an empath's make-up too, but perhaps not quite to the degree that H.G. seems to see them in Harry. Your knowledge of his output seem quite thorough, though.

by Anonymousreply 184July 20, 2022 8:39 AM

He's mentioned Harry as an empath a few times, but usually qualifies it by saying that he's influenced by her so much that it makes him act narcissistically. Also that he does have narcissistic "traits" (like volatile anger) but isn't a narcissist.

Oh who knows - he says Obama is an "Ultra" Narcissist (like himself) - the creme de la creme - they know exactly what they are, why they do what they do, etc., while the rest are unaware. Also says Biden is a narcissist (hasn't given any reasons/examples of behavior to back that up.) I have a feeling he wants to play both sides of the political fence - at least getting the haters on both sides.

Well, he does admit he (H.G.) is a psychopath!

by Anonymousreply 185July 20, 2022 8:45 AM

Harry is more of a Sub than an empath.

He may well be an empath too, but what I'm saying is I believe that any empathy of which he is capable (seems to be hardly any when it comes to family, friends and the public) strikes me as a less powerful force in this situation than his sexual drive for Submission.

I've joked about this elsewhere in the threads, and of course I have no proof except for my instinct, but I am becoming more and more convinced that there is a strong sexual fetish that they share (or shared) that had him so incredibly bonded to her very early on.

However, that doesn't mean they even have sex now. They seem to me to be passionless at this point. Having said that, she remains his Dominant. That much is clear to me.

by Anonymousreply 186July 20, 2022 8:52 AM

^^^ The British public , not "the public"

by Anonymousreply 187July 20, 2022 8:58 AM

Thanks, R185. Now that you say it, he does frequently label various actions of Harry's as "emotional thinking", which is an empathic trait, right?

by Anonymousreply 188July 20, 2022 9:02 AM

I doubt Harry is an empath. An empath wouldn’t grab a woman’s breast, or knock children’s heads together. He’s an ass.

by Anonymousreply 189July 20, 2022 9:28 AM

Harry has just dug himself into a hole and there is no way out for him, so he just keeps diggin'. He has seen the writing on the wall, ie, the total suppression of his Uncle Andrew, and knows that awaits him if he returns to the UK, with or without his family in tow.

Right now, all they are doing is throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks. The repeated failures, the endless derision and disapprobation, are clearly taking a toll on his mental health. But make no mistake, they need money, or they will soon have to accept a serious lifestyle downgrade.

by Anonymousreply 190July 20, 2022 9:52 AM

When did Harry grab a woman's breast?

by Anonymousreply 191July 20, 2022 9:57 AM

Or - heaven forbid - the two of them could consider getting an actual job each.

by Anonymousreply 192July 20, 2022 9:59 AM

There’s are a couple of photos of him cupping women’s breasts, in one, obviously drunk, r191. Not women he was dating.

by Anonymousreply 193July 20, 2022 10:09 AM

Are there any details about Meghan's flying teacup incident?

by Anonymousreply 194July 20, 2022 10:33 AM

It was confirmed to have happened by Bower, but with no details whatsover aside from it happend on the Australia trip and involved a member of staff.

Let her sue - I hope she does - so he can provide all the gory details in court.

by Anonymousreply 195July 20, 2022 10:35 AM

Harry is so fugly now. Can't believe people ever found him attractive.

That video by the Body Language Guy is hilarious

by Anonymousreply 196July 20, 2022 11:11 AM

R182, I don't think that Bower mentioned anti-gay jokes. Jokes about "sexism, feminism and transgender people" was how it was worded.

Yes, one could say that homophobic jokes would be a natural addition to that group but I think that it's also conceivable that the jokes were limited to the subjects mentioned because a) men and women do talk this way about the other sex when a group is completely/mostly composed of one sex and b) transgenderism does not yet have the (admittedly low) level of tolerance that homosexuality does.

by Anonymousreply 197July 20, 2022 12:39 PM

This was from a shooting party in early 2016. No one gave a shit about Transgender in 2016. No one was joking about them in casual conversation because no one knew they existed except in terms of Pantomime and Dame Edna.

by Anonymousreply 198July 20, 2022 12:43 PM

Well, the Caitlyn Jenner Vanity Fair cover was in summer 2015 and the Glamour woman of the year thing was later that year, so it is possible. Maybe it hadn't percolated to straight men's consciousness by then but it could have.

by Anonymousreply 199July 20, 2022 12:46 PM

I don't believe anything based on the supposedly offended word of Megan Markle.

by Anonymousreply 200July 20, 2022 12:46 PM

Surely at least one of those toffs was gay, all of the men having been to English boarding and prep schools.

So fag jokes would be off the menu.

by Anonymousreply 201July 20, 2022 12:53 PM

R180 The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition.

by Anonymousreply 202July 20, 2022 1:02 PM

Oh, please. Straight men have known transsexuals and transvestites since the days of mIRC and PIRCH. Those who didn't know about trans in those days were poor and didn't have computer and internet.

by Anonymousreply 203July 20, 2022 1:12 PM

Aren't you due for your job at Mermaids, r203? Scurry along, dear.

by Anonymousreply 204July 20, 2022 2:01 PM

[quote]NOT that it's to be taken as absolute truth or anything but there's a youtuber

Are there words beyond "but there's a youtuber" more likely to suggest something should not be taken as absolute truth.

by Anonymousreply 205July 20, 2022 2:16 PM

Acting all offended and scolding would be a way to become the centre of attention when they were enjoying themselves as a group. Even if she genuinely did find their remarks offensive, they were his guests and his friends, being aggressive is a shit way to behave.

by Anonymousreply 206July 20, 2022 2:17 PM

And she can continue railing against the friends to incite separation. Standard control tactic.

by Anonymousreply 207July 20, 2022 2:52 PM

A presumptuous cunt passing judgment on what is said in jest is just a phony "woke" divider of her little male spider from his mates. She wants to feed off her consort until there's nothing left of him but exoskeleton, which is where Harry is heading.

Upper-class humor (and humor, generally) is famously sharp, outrageous if played down in delivery, clever and done for the joke, the absurd or purposely inappropriate joke.

Markle simply wanted to assert her moral superiority because that's part of her game, and a good way to shame her pathetic little arthropod into attaching to her, before she eventually bites his little bald head off.

by Anonymousreply 208July 20, 2022 3:21 PM

Australian readers have already got their Kindle copy.

by Anonymousreply 209July 20, 2022 3:22 PM

Ok, Aussies! Make it rain!

by Anonymousreply 210July 20, 2022 3:24 PM

Are there any DLers from Oz?

If so: We love you, guys --- particularly in case you start spilling the tea. ;-) :-*

by Anonymousreply 211July 20, 2022 3:26 PM

Will the book have any effect on them getting corporate partnerships? They are seemingly hiring people with ultra-liberal people with political connections.

Even putting politics and personal behavior aside, they’ve shown that they’ve been slow to produce anything. Meghan did produce a children’s book. Harry has been doing work to promote BetterUp. And they did release a 30-minute podcast. There are three other projects which do seem to be in production: the Invictus documentary, their “unscripted documentary” and Harry’s memoir. There are no dates for release for any of these three projects, aside from vague windows that keep being pushed back.

If I were looking to make a deal with any sort of content-producing entity, they’d be struck off my list for being a risky gamble. They have a very poor track record.

by Anonymousreply 212July 20, 2022 3:28 PM

According to Tom Markle, Doria was constantly stoned and found looking after Meghan alone very challenging. She was also sleeping around behind his back.

Could have guessed that bit.

by Anonymousreply 213July 20, 2022 3:32 PM

Didn’t someone say that Meghan was raised partly by her maternal grandmother, too? There was probably a patchwork of caregivers who wanted to let Doria have custody but provided a very strong safety net so Meghan would have care.

by Anonymousreply 214July 20, 2022 3:40 PM

R213 It's obvious that she was missing from Meghan's life because she was in prison for several years due to drugs or fraud.

by Anonymousreply 215July 20, 2022 3:47 PM

^^Either give a source for that or go back to tumblr little parrot.

by Anonymousreply 216July 20, 2022 3:50 PM

Sounds plausible to me. Whenever there are vague gaps in someone's life that can't fully be accounted for, it's usually rehab or prison....or both.

by Anonymousreply 217July 20, 2022 3:59 PM

You're not in rehab for years, prison records aren't easy to hide, and there's money to be made selling paperwork to TMZ and the like.

If she did anything she probably just drifted away, uninterested in mommying. Big if. And why would MM forgive that?

by Anonymousreply 218July 20, 2022 4:05 PM

[quote] This was from a shooting party in early 2016. No one gave a shit about Transgender in 2016.

The big transgender moment, which was more or less announced when Laverne Cox went on the cover of TIME and Bruce Jenner revealed he was trans, was in 2015, so you're incorrect.

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by Anonymousreply 219July 20, 2022 4:05 PM

When do reviews get published? Day of publication or prior?

by Anonymousreply 220July 20, 2022 4:07 PM

Has anyone explained yet why the book is called :"Revenge"? Is it that the book represents the revenge from the people whom Meghan stepped on to get to the top, or is it about that Meghan and Harry swore revenge against the BRF?

by Anonymousreply 221July 20, 2022 4:23 PM

It would be interesting to know what Meghan was like as a kid.

I have a niece who’s very sweet and kind and almost scary smart. Shes also very talkative (like, constantly talking and frequently interrupting) and seems to get anxious when not actively the center of attention. She’s only 6 years old, so will likely grow out of it.

But if Meghan had these tendencies combined with her not-very-nice disposition, I could see her being a little exhausting as a kid.

But in the various videos I’ve seen of Meghan as a child, she seems kind of dopey and slow, for lack of a better way of putting it. She does pull some attitude, though (Linda Ellerbee clip.) That isn’t a good combination with dopey and slow.

by Anonymousreply 222July 20, 2022 5:01 PM

I hadn't known before reading all this that Doria Ragland had more or less abandoned Meghan for a while back when Meghan was a child, and she was mostly raised during that time by Thomas Markle. It makes Meghan's rejection of her father seem all the more cruel.

by Anonymousreply 223July 20, 2022 5:09 PM

'A while =10 years. Markle's grandmither and aunts filled in too, making her ghosting the Raglands starting with the dumb wedding even worse.

by Anonymousreply 224July 20, 2022 5:12 PM

Not if he was a shitty father, r223. If Meghan was abandoned by Doria and then Thomas was also a shitty parent, then she would feel doubly betrayed by Thomas.

“You knew my mother abandoned me and you still couldn’t bring yourself to be a good parent. How could you do that?”

If there was any physical abuse, that would explain a lot. Thomas sure was quick to bring up hitting in his conversation with Harry.

And an oaf like Thomas likely thinks hitting kids is just a fact of life, like growing a 75-pound beer belly.

by Anonymousreply 225July 20, 2022 5:20 PM

R225, the trouble with that line is that Meghan praised Thomas for years, long after she left home and had no obligation to be nice to him. As far as anyone knows, her tune suddenly changed when she met Harry.

by Anonymousreply 226July 20, 2022 5:35 PM

Doria was (and still is, I believe) involved in that culty Agape Church in LA. She and Thomas got married there and that is rumored to be where she spent most of her time.

Thomas could have been a bad parent in that he spoiled Meghan. Spoiling a kid is abusive in its own way and does the kid no favors. All the same, she should have invited him and her other family to the wedding purely from a strategic standpoint. I'm sure the Palace would have provided wranglers to handle them during the ceremony and after. But, I think she lied to Harry about her family (and other things) to make him feel like a white knight. She couldn't then invite them because it would appear odd to Harry to invite people she painted as abusive. Also, she couldn't risk any of them being in his presence because they could blow her cover.

by Anonymousreply 227July 20, 2022 5:53 PM

Didn't her teachers say Thomas was very involved at her school.

I know I read where he volunteered to handle the lighting for her high school plays, etc.

Story was that Meghan dropped out of one show in a huff and wanted her father to leave too. But he refused because he had promised to help for the school event.

As for little Meg, could someone please post the link to that birthday party video where little Meg grabbed the "crown" from the head of the Birthday Girl and placed it on her own head.

by Anonymousreply 228July 20, 2022 6:24 PM

Thomas is clearly an alcoholic. It’s possible Meghan feared him being unpredictable around Harry and the royal family.

Meghan is image conscious. Of course she’s going to try to make it sounds like her life / father is just the bestest in her vapid blog. That’s what Millennials do. Doesn’t make it true.

Thomas has been an utter piece of shit since the period leading up to the wedding. That doesn’t come out of the blue. That’s who he is.

Meghan’s a nightmare too, of course.

by Anonymousreply 229July 20, 2022 6:27 PM

I once dated a pathological liar briefly . He was cute,great in bed,but that never ending lying was just too much to deal with. He'd lie about everything,even something as stupid as sugar in his coffee! Ive no doubt Meagain is just like him,and Harry will eventually decide being pegged by her simply isnt enough to put up with it.Shes proven over and over shes a fucking liar.

by Anonymousreply 230July 20, 2022 7:02 PM

Anyone find it interesting that after years, suddenly it's let's speculate about Thomas Markle? DLers follows these threads. Vested interests come and go. Just sayin'.

by Anonymousreply 231July 20, 2022 7:21 PM

I hope the book also lays out how stupid Harry is. Remember that story about how he had his teachers' help completing his art project for his A levels? He got a B and in Geography, he got a D.

Megs can be a narcissist, a grifter, whatever. She is still more intelligent than Harry and I think sitting across the breakfast table from a moron, no matter how "kind", has to be wearying. It would be less noticeable once they had kids to provide distraction.

by Anonymousreply 232July 20, 2022 7:22 PM

There is a nice interview M's high school drama teacher (ex-child star) Gigi Pereau.

GP had wonderful things to say about Tom and she does not know what happened to their relationship.

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by Anonymousreply 233July 20, 2022 7:32 PM

R231, obviously, Thomas was one of Bower's sources, so it's necessary to attack his credibility.

by Anonymousreply 234July 20, 2022 7:40 PM

I can't post any spoilers because I'm going off line soon. But if you want any, theres a thread on the book in the 'off topic' forum on T a t t l e L i f e. that well known cesspit of gossip. Have fun.

by Anonymousreply 235July 20, 2022 7:48 PM

Tom Bower sets the record straight.

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by Anonymousreply 236July 20, 2022 7:51 PM

H & M were invited to the UN because...

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by Anonymousreply 237July 20, 2022 7:53 PM

They still think they're so special. This is one reason many people don't like them.

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by Anonymousreply 238July 20, 2022 7:53 PM

if Meghan was being passed around from older relative to older relative (as it sounds like happened for the years), that explains why she's such a narcissist. Narcissists are often born when in childhood they're not getting enough love (or the right kind) from their parents, and it sounds like both Doria and Thomas were not able to give her the kind of emotional stability and nurturing she needed.

She grew up thinking, "I will never be loved unless I show them I can be perfect," which explains the obsession with perfect penmanship & calligraphy, getting the best roles in plays, getting perfect grades, becoming a celebrity, selling herself as a lifestyle "expert" on "the Tig," and the relentless social climbing.

by Anonymousreply 239July 20, 2022 7:55 PM

What she did was nice penmanship, and was certainly not calligraphy. She just wrote somewhat prettily and tidily and then drew on some swishy lines, presumably after finishing each word.

It was not actual calligraphy, where the ornamentation is mostly part of the process of writing each letter (depicted in calligraphy books as a series of numbered strokes), rather than something fancy that's only added afterwards.

Look at this sample: it looks nice from afar but, when you actually look at the letters, you see that it's just tidy handwriting with add-ons.

I know you weren't specifically describing her as a professional-level calligrapher, as Sugars are wont to do, but I just took the opportunity to clarify.

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by Anonymousreply 240July 20, 2022 8:06 PM

Meghan has that peculiar brand of millennial arrested development. She really only comes alive when talking about her childhood accomplishments— the dish soap protest, the “calligraphy.”

I have a family member who is fairly professionally accomplished. She also has a young toddler. Yet ALL she ever talks about are her favorite childhood cartoons, books, movies.

She doesn’t even take much interest in things her child likes. It’s always “let mommy tell you about MY favorite cartoon from when I was little…” then she’ll drag out some 35 year old cartoon on DVD snd make the kid watch it.

It’s almost sad.

by Anonymousreply 241July 20, 2022 8:18 PM

R236 Of Bower has the receipts for everything he put in the book, he's an old school investigative journalist. Also given Meghan and Harry's propensity for legal action, he is prepared for with the necessary documentation to back it up (which is why Meghan won't sue him).

Remember, Sunshine Sachs is the same company that when all the allegations against Harvey Weinstien came out (he was one of their top clients), they threatened the women coming forward, attempted to discredit, warned news outlets that if the interviewed these women they wouldn't have access to their clients etc.

by Anonymousreply 242July 20, 2022 8:50 PM

Like anybody gives a fuck these two are in a restaurant ! Much less want pics. If they did want pics,it would be of Harry,not her.

by Anonymousreply 243July 20, 2022 8:52 PM

She dressed for a glamorous night out and Harry's dressed for a night of bowling and beer.

by Anonymousreply 244July 20, 2022 9:04 PM

She dressed for the pap walk.

He dressed like he couldn't give a fuck about it.

by Anonymousreply 245July 20, 2022 9:05 PM

She actually had one of her minions hastily sew on that band of white fabric— then tie a too tight knot that accentuates her back fat.

Can’t wait to see her version of Kate’s gold dress.

Bet Kate has been sniggering over all of Meg’s fashion faux pas.

by Anonymousreply 246July 20, 2022 9:21 PM

The book has been pulled from Barnes and Noble and Amazon. The publishing houses lawyers have pulled it because there is too many inaccuracies (lies). Their is now a delay in the release of book and the publishing house is furious as so many copies were already printed. It's on Twitter all the details. All alleged but funny if true.

by Anonymousreply 247July 20, 2022 9:30 PM

♥Hi Sussex FBI Troll! We are now an official thread!♥

Should we all get attorneys ready for our arrests? Will Black Twitter be our jury? I'm excited!

by Anonymousreply 248July 20, 2022 9:35 PM

R247 Oh Hi Meghan! So this fake news. The book was ever on Barnes and Noble because it's not yet for sale in the US. It has not been pulled and is due to be released in the UK tomorrow. A world release is like coming for later 2022 to hit the christmas market in the US.

by Anonymousreply 249July 20, 2022 9:38 PM

R247, what’s even funnier is that the ebook version has already been released in Australia.

But, yeah, everyone is going to be arrested . . .

by Anonymousreply 250July 20, 2022 9:42 PM

R247 I’ve missed you! I’ve been waiting for you to chime in!

Have the authorities been alerted? Is black Twitter exploding? Is my static IP address being watched? MI5? FBI? CIA? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 251July 20, 2022 9:43 PM

I’m too lazy to look it up but why isn’t the book released here yet? I mean, I’m sure it can be easily purchased anyway.

by Anonymousreply 252July 20, 2022 9:48 PM

I just check Amazon and it's not even listed. What's up with that?

by Anonymousreply 253July 20, 2022 9:56 PM

Poor Smeg thought she was doing some kind of revenge body in that jumpsuit. Reaction on social media was split between comparing the WY pic to her current broad backside or accusing her of copying Kate with dismal results.

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by Anonymousreply 254July 20, 2022 10:04 PM

For US customers, the book can be ordered on something called The Book Depository.

Despite what everyone thinks, Amazon isn’t the only place to buy books. I’ll buy it eventually.

by Anonymousreply 255July 20, 2022 10:29 PM

I think this book is going to be like “Mommie Dearest”.

by Anonymousreply 256July 20, 2022 10:30 PM

Buy it on book depository. 23.67 bucks

by Anonymousreply 257July 20, 2022 10:31 PM

r253 It's definitely listed on amazon when I looked it up 20 minutes ago.

by Anonymousreply 258July 20, 2022 10:34 PM

R258 it isn’t. I did a search both under the title and the author. Are you sure you’re not looking at the UK site? It’s listed there.

by Anonymousreply 259July 20, 2022 10:48 PM

Because it was one of the first things to irk me, here is an example of a real calligrapher at work. MM doesn't even have good *penmanship*. I can look up examples of that, too.

Warning, might have autoplay music.

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by Anonymousreply 260July 20, 2022 10:49 PM

On Amazon the book only has 3 stars.

by Anonymousreply 261July 20, 2022 10:58 PM

OH NOEZ THE FBI AND INTERPOL HAVE GOTTEN TO AMAXON. WHAT SHALL WE DO

by Anonymousreply 262July 20, 2022 11:03 PM

R261 Amazon ratings? The book comes out tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 263July 20, 2022 11:38 PM

Also, the book isn’t available on Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 264July 20, 2022 11:43 PM

How much did it cost him to give a short speech? Desperate for relativity and Netflix material.

by Anonymousreply 265July 21, 2022 12:02 AM

The Magastans will be descending like locusts to give it rotten ratings.

by Anonymousreply 266July 21, 2022 12:09 AM

Sorry, Megastans.

Same thing, all things considered.

by Anonymousreply 267July 21, 2022 12:09 AM

Absolutely the same thing, r267.

by Anonymousreply 268July 21, 2022 12:16 AM

R264 I thought I saw posts that said it was available on Amazon UK.

by Anonymousreply 270July 21, 2022 12:26 AM

It might be r270

But, I spent a few minutes trying to find it on US Amazon. Until read it here, that it wasn’t being sold there

by Anonymousreply 271July 21, 2022 12:32 AM

The VF story is 100% true.

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by Anonymousreply 273July 21, 2022 12:39 AM

It's the American way, R244. Harry's fitting in just fine looking like a slob while his wife looks like she's going to a cocktail party. That's how hetero couples dress.

by Anonymousreply 274July 21, 2022 12:41 AM

The rumors of a fight beforehand present the hand holding incident in a new light…

by Anonymousreply 275July 21, 2022 12:53 AM

Harry was modelling for Dior apparently.

Must go out and buy a creased navy suit.

by Anonymousreply 276July 21, 2022 1:00 AM

Their poor little kids. To have not one but two fucked up parents? Bless them.

by Anonymousreply 277July 21, 2022 1:04 AM

What are the chances that the kids turn out to be just like mum and da?

by Anonymousreply 278July 21, 2022 1:08 AM

Della, you don't need to spend a fortune on custom tailoring. When I was growing up my mother could sew and altered all my clothing for a custom fit. As an adult I found people who did custom alterations for stores and was able to continue that practice. I agree with you that she needs many things she wears altered to fit her properly, It is well within her budget, however. You'd think she would have learned that altering can make a big difference when she was working on shows with wardrobe experts, but apparently not.

by Anonymousreply 279July 21, 2022 1:12 AM

Instead of nicking expensive and unflattering shoes from low-budget commercial shoots, cunt should have stolen some pieces from her Suits wardrobe.

by Anonymousreply 280July 21, 2022 1:19 AM

So the book is actually live in the UK right now for anyone who ordered the Kindle Edition, and I imagine for hard copies will be received within the next few days. My predictions are not that this book will reveal prostitution in her past, or fake/surrogate babies, but that it will instead paint a coherent, devastating portrait of the building and then full flowering of a narcissist.

by Anonymousreply 281July 21, 2022 1:20 AM

I didn't see a Kindle edition for the UK.

by Anonymousreply 282July 21, 2022 1:21 AM

R281 I’m five chapters in and so far your prediction is accurate. It started relatively quietly but I’d building in negative depictions of her with every chapter.

I was just aware of Trevor and Cory - there’s a litany of other men who she was chasing online while with them and a number of affairs (implied so far).

by Anonymousreply 284July 21, 2022 1:26 AM

here is a sample of the book if anyone has not read it.

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by Anonymousreply 285July 21, 2022 1:29 AM

Im actually starting to worry a little for Harry ! That crazy narc might kill his ass !

by Anonymousreply 286July 21, 2022 1:34 AM

I can't believe Archie was named after the actual comic.

by Anonymousreply 287July 21, 2022 1:40 AM

I thought he was named Archie because that's what George's nickname is/was. So steal his nickname as well as Nana's nickname. How respectful and original .

by Anonymousreply 288July 21, 2022 1:43 AM

Archie!!!!! Bring me the ax!!!

by Anonymousreply 289July 21, 2022 1:46 AM

R284, that sounds intriguing and I'm jealous of Brits able to read this right now. Obviously I read all the excerpts in The Times and thought the little bit about the golfer she had a few nights out with was an obvious implication of cheating on her part (and maybe on his if he wasn't single).

I've never believed any of the weird crap about surrogates or yachting and I hope a lack of mention there will shut down the batshit contingent (it won't, lol) but am definitely looking forward to the real dirt. In no way am I surprised if she's a serial cheater. It would be more surprising if she wasn't.

Thank you for your thoughts and keep 'em coming, we're desperate here!

by Anonymousreply 290July 21, 2022 1:53 AM

FFS…this “rumour” about the NYC hotel fight is so fucking stupid only a moron would believe it.

by Anonymousreply 292July 21, 2022 1:58 AM

R290 We’re not all British, btw

by Anonymousreply 293July 21, 2022 1:59 AM

R292 It would give context to how tense they were with each other later in the day.

by Anonymousreply 294July 21, 2022 2:01 AM

R292, because they would never fight? Never ever?

by Anonymousreply 295July 21, 2022 2:02 AM

It doesn’t give “context” to anything, R294, becaise it’s plainly made up.

This anonymous person was apparently able to give a word perfect recitation of some supposed argument that, in reality, no one would be close enough to hear.

Grow up and stop clogging up otherwise interesting threads with the deranged rantings of Tumblr attention seekers.

by Anonymousreply 296July 21, 2022 2:04 AM

R295 Actually, cretin, I think they probably do nothing BUT fight.

It’s just fucking obvious that this particular nugget is total fiction. Obvious to anyone who can think, that is.

by Anonymousreply 298July 21, 2022 2:06 AM

Oh, and piss off back to Tattle Life, please. How many forums do you fat old women need?

by Anonymousreply 299July 21, 2022 2:08 AM

Ch 14: “The one question Harry asked very carefully of von Westenholz (who set up their first date) was about Meghan’s appearance. Exactly what did she mean about Meghan’s background?”.

I think that this is going somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 300July 21, 2022 2:11 AM

I see Sunshine Sux trolls have arrived

by Anonymousreply 301July 21, 2022 2:11 AM

r259 Yes I am in the UK.Sorry I overlooked the fact there were differences between Amazon in the UK and US.

by Anonymousreply 303July 21, 2022 2:18 AM

r266 r267 Absolutely I think they will.Standard practice I am afraid.I remember left wing guardian columnist Polly Toynbee telling me at a book festival in Scotland at a book signing after show event about paid rightwingers descending on the Amazon review section within days even hours of her books being published and giving her very poor reviews and low star points.It was clearly a coordinated campaign. It happened with all her books but was especially nasty in 2009 in the year running up to the general election in the UK when many prominent left wingers or labour party supporters were attacked without mercy including with paid book reviews.

by Anonymousreply 304July 21, 2022 2:24 AM

Agree R296. Stop with the garbage twitter links, fraus.

by Anonymousreply 305July 21, 2022 2:25 AM

[quote]Their poor little kids. To have not one but two fucked up parents? Bless them.

We feel for them.

by Anonymousreply 306July 21, 2022 2:28 AM

I hope their Netflix series FLOPS hard

by Anonymousreply 307July 21, 2022 2:41 AM

R307 for gods sake,look at their track record so far. Its a given it'll flop.

by Anonymousreply 308July 21, 2022 2:42 AM

It will never see the light of day because Smeg will want to control every aspect and will be told no.

by Anonymousreply 309July 21, 2022 2:48 AM

R309, that is a safe bet. She wants to control every narrative about her.

by Anonymousreply 310July 21, 2022 2:52 AM

I got this from Twitter.

Book:

Preface Thomas School College Suits Manhunt Influencer The Irishman Hillary Watershed Rwanda Reitmans - Take Two Limbo A Troubled Prince The Catch Exposed Hiccups Vanity Fair Spotlight Engagement Aggravation Tears Humiliation Wedding Tremors Suicide Exposure Baby Shower Wellness Pitching Vogue Attack Transit Farewell Paradise The Trial The Jigsaw Netflix The Interview Backlash Grandstanding Victory Revenge Fall-Out

by Anonymousreply 311July 21, 2022 3:44 AM

So just to clear things up:

The book is only being published in the UK right now. It will likely be published globally a few months from now. This is very common with UK books (particularly biographies). They are generally printed domestically by a UK publisher with the international publication happen by a larger publisher who purchases the international distribution rights to the book. My guess is Revenge will be available in the US in November or so.

This is why American users you can't find it on Amazon.com and if you find it Amazon.com, it's being sold by a third-party seller in the UK likely.

by Anonymousreply 312July 21, 2022 3:45 AM

She's like a sister to me.

by Anonymousreply 313July 21, 2022 3:50 AM

R312 that’s not correct. The book not being published in the USA means that it’s not being published in the USA. I live in neither the USA nor the UK and I am reading the book as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 314July 21, 2022 4:02 AM

I'm in New Zealand and it's available here in a week.

by Anonymousreply 315July 21, 2022 4:19 AM

I’m in the US and I preordered from The Book Depository. Free shipping.

by Anonymousreply 316July 21, 2022 4:47 AM

R314 As has already been explained by others yes the book is going to be published globally at a future date. This happens FREQUENTLY with royal biographies.

Revenge is being published with Bonnier Books Ltd which is a UK press it doesn't have a international wing. Bonnier makes a deal with a larger publishing houses to distribute globally. The manuscript is then edited into American English and distributed by an American publisher. How do I know this, because I worked in publishing for 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 317July 21, 2022 5:14 AM

R300, that is very interesting. Perhaps he was speculating about what color their future children would be? I'm kidding, of course.

by Anonymousreply 318July 21, 2022 5:15 AM

For the last fucking time Tom Bower has CONFIRMED Revenge will be published in the US later this year.

by Anonymousreply 319July 21, 2022 5:17 AM

R317 Thank you and yes international distribution is often handled by different publishers which is why books are not always released at the same time across the world and why UK books often have different covers than US ones.

Also it's likely the US edition will be published with previously unreleased material. This often happens in sensational royal biographies that initially debut in the UK and have a later release in the US.

by Anonymousreply 320July 21, 2022 5:20 AM

Wow so according to the book the reason why there was so much mystery around Archie's birth was the Meghan and Harry and signed an exclusive deal with Oprah. She would get all details, access to the Queen meeting Archie for the first time, and access to Archie's christening. The special was to be debut on CBS a few weeks after Archie's birth. But the Palace found out and said no way.

by Anonymousreply 321July 21, 2022 5:22 AM

Just flipping through some of the stuff being put in Twitter not that ebook is out in the UK and yeah....it appears Tom Bower does deliver. Guess I'm buying a copy in the morning!

by Anonymousreply 322July 21, 2022 5:29 AM

Somebody here is going to have to watch the Netflix series and report back. I refuse to give Netflix any views of it.

by Anonymousreply 323July 21, 2022 5:46 AM

Ok, I'm looking at the sample read at R285, and right off the bat Bower writes of Thomas and Doria settling in "Woodward Hills" in LA. Clearly he means Woodland Hills. That's a really sloppy mistake, tsk tsk. Did he even travel to LA?

by Anonymousreply 324July 21, 2022 6:06 AM

OMG

Meghan demanded that Jason Knauf write an open letter from Kensington Palace to the UK press decrying her "ill treatment" and insisted he include a comparison between her fate and that of Diana's.

!!!!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 325July 21, 2022 6:47 AM

r325 Meghan is more sick than I thought. What a wacko.

by Anonymousreply 326July 21, 2022 6:50 AM

r324. It will be corrected in the 2nd printing, which, given it's already pre-selling like hot cakes, will be pretty soon....

by Anonymousreply 327July 21, 2022 6:53 AM

I am surprised it’s not being simultaneously released worldwide on Kindle. It’s a book that will have a burst of initial interest, all the juicy bits will get lots of coverage, then interest will wane.

by Anonymousreply 328July 21, 2022 6:53 AM

The UK and its territories almost always get UK media content of all types first and for at least several months after release. Sometimes it takes a year for media content and entertainment to be released outside of the UK territories.

by Anonymousreply 329July 21, 2022 6:57 AM

R317 for someone who worked in publishing your reading and comprehension skills are subpar.

by Anonymousreply 330July 21, 2022 7:43 AM

Who should be in the big-budget film or miniseries adaptation?

Harry: Eddie Redmayne

Meghan: Zoe Saldana

by Anonymousreply 331July 21, 2022 8:18 AM

I'm confused. I've ordered multiple books in the past from amazon.uk while living in the USA and they simply mail them to me.

It's a bit slower than if you could order from amazon in the US, but no big deal.

Is that not possible with this book?

by Anonymousreply 332July 21, 2022 8:25 AM

R232. I originally thought Meghan was more intelligent than Harry, but I sincerely believe she is at least as stupid as he is. It’s impossible to understand any of the things she has done in the past few years without accepting the fact that she is severely stupid. Everything she does is so simple-minded, your average high schooler could outwit her. I do think she is probably more educated than Harry because Harry knew from childhood on that it didn’t really matter how well he did in school.

by Anonymousreply 333July 21, 2022 9:55 AM

Here you go R532 and R533 - all is explained!

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by Anonymousreply 334July 21, 2022 10:19 AM

The Dunning–Kruger effect

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by Anonymousreply 335July 21, 2022 10:39 AM

The link is fucked. Try again.

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by Anonymousreply 336July 21, 2022 10:40 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 337July 21, 2022 10:45 AM

So it was Trevor, her first husband, that Meghan actually married twice: they had a small service (to which no parents were invited), and then the big wedding in Jamaica three days later. Why try to transfer this story to her wedding to Harry? God only knows.

Also, at the second wedding, Trevor promised to give her "the family home that she'd never had," which shocked both Thomas and Doria. Who knows what they thought when they heard this line years later from Harry, who announced that the royals would be "the family she'd never had."

by Anonymousreply 338July 21, 2022 11:15 AM

Shit. That article (at R337) clarifies the 'bullying' of Charlotte that was rumoured at the time. Honestly, I didn't believe that aspect of the story - how could anyone bully a little girl? - but the extra details make sense. Comparing unfavourably with another child, belittling... how cruel. No wonder Catherine was in tears.

by Anonymousreply 339July 21, 2022 11:17 AM

Here's a few pages about the Diana- obsessed teenager Meghan ("I knew nothing about the Royal family") with pages photographed in whole, by an Australian reader.

Jesus. I'm beginning to think that she may have stalked him.

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by Anonymousreply 340July 21, 2022 11:36 AM

^You also have to remember that Kate was three weeks out of childbirth and still loaded with hormones. She would have been emotionally much more sensitive than usual.

God, what a horrible bitch Meghan is.

There is a rumour floating about that Harry and Meghan had a huge row in the hotel the night before his UN appearance. Hotel staff heard her screaming at him for not doing enough to see that she shared the stage with him at the UN. Apparently, she is not happy with the way her "public profile" is shaping up. Staff found broken crockery after the two left.

Hence, Steinem obligingly giving Meghan a little photo op if her own in NYC.

The people who heard the fight attribute Harry's ghastly physical and mental appearance at the UN to the row, as well as Meghan's clawing at him and patting him, as well as that horrible plastic grin.

Nothing to see here, see? I've got him, I've still got him, we're great, we really are!

Hence, as also, Harry's obviously conflicted body language.

I'd feel sorry for the poor dupe if he hadn't eagerly colluded with her in hirting so many other people.

They really deserve each other.

by Anonymousreply 341July 21, 2022 11:42 AM

Gawd, she really did pork Rory McIlroy. Her standards are all over the place.

"Rory’s nomination of the actress, at the time best known for her role in the series "Suits", was “unexpected,” Bower wrote, but Meghan accepted the challenge on condition that Rory came to her friend’s apartment and personally poured the bucket over her on the balcony."

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by Anonymousreply 343July 21, 2022 11:55 AM

She was banging every and any rich man she could find, and she outright declared to reality-tv scumbags such as z-lister Lizzy Cundy that she was on the hunt for a British man.

The new Rory McIlroy story, confirmed by Bower, is proof that Lizzy Cundy was telling the truth.

I'd not previously given credence to the "Yacht Girl" rumours, but I must say that I do now....

by Anonymousreply 344July 21, 2022 12:13 PM

Does Ashley Cole get a mention yet? Meghan probably had herself down as the new Victoria Beckham. What I find most amazing is the only person stupid enough to fall for her lies was a prince!! So much for that Eton education.

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by Anonymousreply 345July 21, 2022 12:18 PM

R240 I think you are being too kind about the grade school standard handwriting with a few too many flourishes and curlicues.

by Anonymousreply 347July 21, 2022 12:47 PM

R347, I don't think that "somewhat pretty", "tidy" and "nice from afar" are exactly "too kind".

by Anonymousreply 348July 21, 2022 12:58 PM

What’s embarrassing is that she’d sign her name the same way when she was doing BRF stuff. Those squished together letters and then a big flair on the M.

High. School.

by Anonymousreply 349July 21, 2022 1:04 PM

She's revealed to be so stunningly tacky. Among the more nuclear revelations, Bower's book demonstrates her to be the most basic of basic Karens, hopelessly stuck in the 90's.

She's like some relentlessly, constantly, mercilessly vacuuming space hole into which all good taste and decency are somehow sucked in, only to die a pitiless death.

by Anonymousreply 350July 21, 2022 1:09 PM

LOL... poor Harry's getting demoted. From The Telegraph: BBC to pay 'substantial damages' to Prince William's ex-nanny over Martin Bashir's Princess Diana interview

All the other papers gave him a mention.

by Anonymousreply 351July 21, 2022 1:13 PM

The Spoiled, entitled Prince barks & whines & the caravan & news cycle moves on.

by Anonymousreply 352July 21, 2022 1:16 PM

[quote] Rory came to her friend’s apartment and personally poured the bucket over her o

Is "personally pouring the bucket over her" some coded way of saying he did bukkake on her? lol

by Anonymousreply 353July 21, 2022 1:20 PM

Bullying a three-year-old girl is lower than low. The fact that Harry allowed his wife to lie about it on Oprah makes him just as despicable.

Then again, Charlotte meted out a bit of poetic justice when she upstaged Jessica Mulphoney’s sad attempt at a “Pippa moment” on the steps of the cathedral at Harry’s wedding. Charlotte turned around and waved at the crowd just as JM started her ridiculous sashay up the stairs. All hail Charlotte, the real queen!

by Anonymousreply 354July 21, 2022 1:24 PM

I've said this before but daily it feels like it is worth saying again. I expected so much more from this book... the story of a modern, real life Marquise de Merteuil. And what we get is just so petty and basic. I mean, it's certainly epic petty and basic, but that's a bit like being the best quality item at Dollar Tree.

by Anonymousreply 355July 21, 2022 1:39 PM

Re: the Charlotte bullying incident: shortly after the wedding, someone (a DL poster, maybe?) connected with the fashion house that designed the bridesmaid dresses recounted a similar version of events as Bowers. Allegedly, Meghan and MulPhoney were taunting Charlotte during the fitting. After that, William and Catherine allegedly made the decision to remove their children from any unsupervised contact with Meghan and her henchwoman. That’s why, the minute wedding ended, the royal kids were whisked away from the Mulroney kids.

Revenge, indeed!

by Anonymousreply 356July 21, 2022 1:41 PM

But isn't Meghan exactly that R355; petty and basic

by Anonymousreply 357July 21, 2022 1:41 PM

Well, no one is forcing you to buy the book or read these threads, R355. And yet, here you are…

by Anonymousreply 358July 21, 2022 1:42 PM

Whatever the particulars, it seems clear now it wasn't Kate making anybody cry.

by Anonymousreply 359July 21, 2022 1:43 PM

Not quite yet, r352.

Seems to me that the Caravan is settling down, building bonfires, and bedding in for the season.

by Anonymousreply 360July 21, 2022 1:44 PM

That was always pretty obvious R359, but Haz and Meg were so coddled up until the Oprah interview they were convinced their lies would go unchecked.

by Anonymousreply 361July 21, 2022 1:45 PM

The explanation of the secrecy behind the first child's birth seems plausible.

by Anonymousreply 362July 21, 2022 1:46 PM

Have you actually read the book, r355?

by Anonymousreply 363July 21, 2022 1:47 PM

She and husband no.1 made a very good looking couple. Him dating Bethenny Frankel afterwards is a bit of a 'huh' moment.

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by Anonymousreply 364July 21, 2022 1:50 PM

R361, if the Royal family were COVID vaccines, Harry and Megan would be Johnson and Johnson. Everyone behind the scenes knew they were no good, but played along and hyped them up because they desperately, naively hoped they’d end up being effective in their roles.

As Tony Montana (Scarface) would say, “Look at you NOW!”

by Anonymousreply 365July 21, 2022 1:51 PM

R360 what I meant was the reference to Harry being deleted from the Telegraph story about their Nanny & the BBC. He will be written out of Royalty news in the UK. They will appear when there is another gaffe, another lie exposed, but they got what they wanted..Out of the dreaded, awful, racist, mean UK. They will be featured only to be laughed at.

by Anonymousreply 366July 21, 2022 1:51 PM

I wasn't aware prior to this that Tom Jr. and Samantha had actually lived with Thomas and Doria during their teens.

by Anonymousreply 367July 21, 2022 1:53 PM

Fair enough, r366, and a good point.

by Anonymousreply 368July 21, 2022 1:54 PM

R363, I don't follow your smug point? I've read the excerpts. They paint a clear picture.

by Anonymousreply 369July 21, 2022 1:59 PM

[quote] I've said this before but daily it feels like it is worth saying again. I expected so much more from this book... the story of a modern, real life Marquise de Merteuil. And what we get is just so petty and basic. I mean, it's certainly epic petty and basic, but that's a bit like being the best quality item at Dollar Tree.

The above is what you posted at r355. You announced there that you "expected so much more from this book...."

I responded that your comment made me wonder if you had actually read the book.

The book is only being first published as I write.

In other words, stop being an Hysteric.

by Anonymousreply 370July 21, 2022 2:05 PM

Ah, you missed my point. But perhaps your carer can explain it to you in words that are easier for you.

by Anonymousreply 371July 21, 2022 2:09 PM

Indeed, dear. You're projecting again. Back to bed with you now.

by Anonymousreply 372July 21, 2022 2:12 PM

Grouse season is coming, why not get ready for another fantasy shoot?

by Anonymousreply 373July 21, 2022 2:15 PM

r373 We are in July, dear.

I have no idea where you get your ideas from, but every single one of them seems to be on the very outer and furthest edge of extremely wrong.

by Anonymousreply 374July 21, 2022 2:23 PM

The glorious twelfth, dear. Twenty-two days away. In the future. That means coming. Though I suspect with the lemons in you, you aren't familiar with the word in any sense. For the rest of the threadsters, I'm done with you now. You may go.

by Anonymousreply 375July 21, 2022 2:29 PM

r375 Shoots don't start until mid September. Stop embarrassing yourself.

by Anonymousreply 376July 21, 2022 2:31 PM

Someone on reddit is saying that the racist comment is referenced in the book. Apparently Camilla was joking with Harry and said, “What if your children have ginger afros?”.

by Anonymousreply 377July 21, 2022 2:49 PM

I would have thought that Harry's immediate family are too smart to set him off and no comment would be made about Archie's black DNA but could make a joke about the child being ginger. They have enough trouble with redheads as it is......*cough* Fergie *cough*

by Anonymousreply 378July 21, 2022 2:55 PM

r378 Again? And in English this time.

by Anonymousreply 379July 21, 2022 2:59 PM

R377, it's the kind of thing that could be twisted to advantage. This book seems to be making sense of so many things.

by Anonymousreply 380July 21, 2022 3:10 PM

Of the first four chapters available as a sample on Overdrive, I’d say it’s 1/3 Thomas, 1/3 Nikki Priddy, and 1/3 stuff reprinted from elsewhere.

Several stupid, minor—but easily correctable—errors, like saying that Pierre Trudeau was PM for only four years. It’s not important in the scheme of things but that’s a pretty dumb mistake.

by Anonymousreply 381July 21, 2022 3:16 PM

I downloaded it and am nearly finished. To be fair most of the best parts have already been excerpted however seeing it all together in this way is hugely compelling. He paints a thoroughly consistent portrait of a mean, entitled, and ruthless narcissist . And it’s v believable. A great read. Can’t help but wonder who else on Team Sussex was crash reading the book like me.

by Anonymousreply 382July 21, 2022 3:19 PM

Would you prefer it in Iranian Omid @ R379?

by Anonymousreply 383July 21, 2022 3:24 PM

Someone else who has read it says that the reason Archie’s birth was concealed is that they’d promised a scoop for Oprah and the Palace found out and denied it. Have you got to that chapter?

by Anonymousreply 384July 21, 2022 3:26 PM

Holy MARY just go and look at the "Why are Harry and Meghan in NYC" thread

It's being bot-attacked!

The Harkles, Russian bot-style!

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by Anonymousreply 385July 21, 2022 3:28 PM

Anyone starting to have sympathy for Prince Dimwit should hold on to that for the divorce.

It will come eventually and she will make him look horrible. She will in the very least make him look like an emotional abuser. A drunk, a looney, a threat to both her and their children.

Anything to bring in a few more bucks.

My brother was married to, and divorced by, a narcissist. The second she found someone who could give her more money, more bling, she was out of there. But she wasn't happy to just leave, she had to destroy him in the process.

We haven't seen anything yet.

by Anonymousreply 386July 21, 2022 3:34 PM

Any divorce will go Angelina style. Brad painted as the dope smoking loser who threatened the eldest kid on a flight etc etc. When these women want revenge they play dirty.

by Anonymousreply 387July 21, 2022 3:36 PM

Well, it's the last ditch. After the divorce she's some distasteful character in a Dominick Dunne novel.

by Anonymousreply 388July 21, 2022 3:40 PM

R327 I still don't like seeing mistakes like that. Never should have made it past the first copyedit, much less fact checkers.

by Anonymousreply 389July 21, 2022 3:51 PM

does meghan’s behavior get worse later on in the book, r382? I’ve read the first couple of chapters online and tbh haven’t been completely appalled with how she’s been described thus far. have also been pretty unimpressed with bower’s writing style and the numerous minor errors (he mentions that she auditioned for a shakira video in 1999 for instance but didn’t shakira officially make her american debut a couple of years later in 2001?). and this is coming from somebody who is definitely not a fan of mm.

by Anonymousreply 390July 21, 2022 3:59 PM

r388 She's already a distastful character in a Dominck Dunne novel.

by Anonymousreply 391July 21, 2022 4:01 PM

R391 I’ve thought that for quite awhile ( Dominick Dunne’s “The Two Mrs. Grenvilles ) - the Ann Grenville character based on Ann Woodward. Many, many similarities there. Let’s hope it doesn’t go that far.

by Anonymousreply 392July 21, 2022 4:08 PM

There’s Thomas’s claim that people speculated about what color his and Doria’s child would be.

Everyone wonders, it’s a common question.

by Anonymousreply 393July 21, 2022 4:57 PM

Another lie checked off the list......

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by Anonymousreply 394July 21, 2022 5:02 PM

It is nothing short of FASCINATING to see how much she lies, and so needlessly. Amazing.

by Anonymousreply 395July 21, 2022 5:08 PM

R385, I can’t even load the page to see new comments. They’re not changing anyone’s minds with this behavior. Maybe it makes them feel better.

by Anonymousreply 396July 21, 2022 5:26 PM

r396 will not be satisfied until she shuts down all speech about the Sussexes.

by Anonymousreply 397July 21, 2022 5:28 PM

I can’t reload this page to show new comments, either.

Anyway. The claims of the letter from Hillary: when was that? Bill became President in 1992.

by Anonymousreply 398July 21, 2022 5:29 PM

If they’re issuing a corrected version, they should probably note that Pennsylvania is not New England.

by Anonymousreply 399July 21, 2022 5:30 PM

Meghan left herself no choice but to cut off her father off. She sold Harry the bill of goods and the risk of contact was too great. Fortunately for Meg, her father made it very easy for her to do so by talking to the media and posing for the pap shots. Same with former best friend Nikki Priddy. They could blow her whole house of cards over.

Harry must be wondering which of her tales are fabricated, right? Or can she keep convincing and spinning her web? What a mindfuck to be in the middle of. That and to be isolated from former supports.

by Anonymousreply 400July 21, 2022 5:31 PM

R395, I’m surprised she wasn’t leading people to safety on 9/11.

by Anonymousreply 401July 21, 2022 5:32 PM

Is Harry bright enough to wonder, R400? Asking in all seriousness because these books excerpts seem to provide even more proof that he is 'special'.

by Anonymousreply 402July 21, 2022 5:33 PM

R397, I’m taking about the Sussex/Sunshine Sachs fans who want to shut down all discussion and mock those of us who criticize them.

And doing that will not make me suddenly worship and respect them.

by Anonymousreply 403July 21, 2022 5:35 PM

R403, the intensity of the attack is confirmation of the book’s essential accuracy.

by Anonymousreply 404July 21, 2022 5:38 PM

R404, hit a few nerves, didn’t it?

by Anonymousreply 405July 21, 2022 5:44 PM

^^ I was not being facetious. Yes, what is it they say? Your best defense is a good offense. Markle lives it.

by Anonymousreply 406July 21, 2022 5:45 PM

I kind of have the same question, r402. Possibly too imperceptive and lacks processing capacity, but it's been piling up for five years. And the recent looks on his face after being accosted by the media at the UN about Bowe and the Times and Sun excerpts (which we are told he almost certainly would read since the couple keep up with what's said about them, even in comments section) give away some inner turmoil. I mean something's gotta give...

R400

by Anonymousreply 407July 21, 2022 5:46 PM

Another interesting bit in the Bower book is "To secure a huge advance, publishers for Harry's memoir encouraged him to criticise his family in the most extreme terms possible. No one is safe, not even the Queen."

Speak of High Treason!

It's like watching lemmings off a cliff. I do hope the Queen lives to see Harry's memoir published so she can finally have a strong enough case for removing the titles, and even, possibly, removing him from the line of succession.

I'm not holding my breath, but Harry is evidently so possessed by his demons that he'd do it.

by Anonymousreply 408July 21, 2022 5:50 PM

So, apparently physical copies of book has sold out online already. The Book Depository is currently out of stock.

by Anonymousreply 409July 21, 2022 6:03 PM

R408 - I love your signature!!!

"If they hang you, I'll always remember you."

by Anonymousreply 410July 21, 2022 6:05 PM

Far,far juicier than I dared hope ! Im loving the vileness that is indeed MM ! What a colossally stupid cunt ! MORE ! MORE!

by Anonymousreply 411July 21, 2022 6:09 PM

R409, isn’t that something? For a book with no publicity or ads, coming from a small Swedish company. Huh. That’s not even counting the electronic and audibles.

by Anonymousreply 412July 21, 2022 6:12 PM

I wonder why her teachers thought she was so compassionate and kind, but other students thought she was fake.

by Anonymousreply 414July 21, 2022 6:16 PM

R414, what excerpt covers that?

by Anonymousreply 415July 21, 2022 6:18 PM

Her Majesty doesn't have the authority to remove someone from the line of succession. Only Parliament can do that. If, however, HM formally requested Parliament to do it they most likely would.

by Anonymousreply 416July 21, 2022 6:21 PM

Don't be ridiculous, Sussex Stan pretending to know about Britain.

Of course she does. One word from her to Parliament and, Labour or Conservative, they all happily strip Harry of the titles she gave him.

He'll remain a Prince because he was born one. But do not delude yourself: Everything else can and will be stripped away from him, with the enthusiastic participation of Parliament.

by Anonymousreply 417July 21, 2022 6:33 PM

R415, it’s in the “School” chapter. Her theology teacher called her “unusually compassionate”. And then says “Some classmates called her ‘fake’ because she seemed ‘perfect’.”

by Anonymousreply 418July 21, 2022 6:40 PM

R416 Is legally correct. So R417's scolding is nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 419July 21, 2022 6:41 PM

^^ whoops. What I wrote implies that the teacher said her classmates called her that. The author himself is the source of the quote.

by Anonymousreply 420July 21, 2022 6:42 PM

Harry can take himself out of the LOS, too. Or his wife might, it dishes keep flying.

by Anonymousreply 421July 21, 2022 6:43 PM

Does it sound like Bower talked to chef Cory?

by Anonymousreply 423July 21, 2022 6:47 PM

Actually, R416 and R417 aren't entirely off base.

Only Parliament can re-order the line of succession, but it's unlikely that it would take it on if the Queen didn't start the ball rolling privately. It would be the same removing his hereditary peerage. It would, as the government responded, be entirely a matter for the Queen - but they left out that they'd have to sign off on it.

I grant it would take a great deal for the Queen to take the step of raising the topic with the government. But it is also true that attempts to undermine the Sovereign or direct heirs to the throne are still on the books as High Treason.

If Harry stepped far enough over a line, as the Bower book hints he is being "encouraged" to do, the Queen might finally feel that a conversation first with the PM might be, at last, the only way for the monarchy to continue undamaged.

Remember, the monarchy is still quite useful to the government; an attack that really threatens the monarchy might just be the proverbial feather that propels the Queen to question whether it's time to talk to Parliament.

by Anonymousreply 424July 21, 2022 6:52 PM

No, r423. She clearly paid Cory off after his mother went on Canadian TV and said how shocked he was when he had only found out Meghan was with Harry from a Canadian news report.

by Anonymousreply 425July 21, 2022 6:52 PM

[quote] I'm confused. I've ordered multiple books in the past from amazon.uk while living in the USA and they simply mail them to me.

Some books they can do that for because there are no copyright issues, but some books cannot be shipped over by amazon.uk, especially if they are new and under copyright by a different press in the US. There's little rhyme or reason to it from the point of view of the consumer; you just have to check on amazon.uk for individual titles and see if they can ship it to you.

by Anonymousreply 426July 21, 2022 6:55 PM

He must have talked to a friend because in a tweet posted above where an Australian reader posted a few photos of book pages, the caption of a picture with Vitello reads something to the effect of "Vitello was relieved when she broke it off because he had suspicions that she was seeing McIlroy."

by Anonymousreply 427July 21, 2022 6:59 PM

The timeline framed by the book accords with the long time accusations that she was attempting to sleep with nearly any rich British man who drew breath.

A real "Welcome all Comers". Very generous woman, is our Meg.

by Anonymousreply 428July 21, 2022 7:10 PM

She had her mother there and everywhere because she only wanted the evidence of her "race" to be prominent.

Cunt of cunt.

by Anonymousreply 429July 21, 2022 7:12 PM

This odious person with no redeeming qualities is not OUR Meg, frau.

by Anonymousreply 430July 21, 2022 7:20 PM

The narcissist guy over on Youtube is doing readings of the book.

Starting with the Preface which is about her glowing reception from Brits in her first appearance with Harry at Nottingham. That was done as a live stream and has no video.

Tudor then moves on to Chapter 1 (in sections).

He interjects his commentary when reading from the book.

Here's the link to the Preface reading.

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by Anonymousreply 431July 21, 2022 8:17 PM

[quote]He'll remain a Prince because he was born one. But do not delude yourself: Everything else can and will be stripped away from him, with the enthusiastic participation of Parliament.

Not exactly so. The sitting monarch has full authority to strip anyone of their HRH or princely title/rank, at anytime for any reason as the Fount of Honor. The royal ducal title, and place in the LOS are handled differently and would likely need Parliamentary action to revise, especially the latter which has deep implications for the monarchy.

by Anonymousreply 432July 21, 2022 8:32 PM

Their engagement was announced in November 2017. Prince Louis was born April 23, the wedding was May 19th.

They knew full well that Catherine was pregnant, that she sufferers from debilitating morning sickness throughout her pregnancies, and they chose a date so close to her due date?

That is a messed up thing to do to anyone, let alone a wedding where the new mother has to be presentable to a global audience.

They seriously couldn't wait another month? You know this narc couldn't stand the possibility of Kate looking her best at the wedding.

If I were Catherine that would be a huge red flag. I don't see how she could ever trust that Megz cared about her at all.

by Anonymousreply 433July 21, 2022 9:07 PM

So, again we're getting some idiot claiming the book has been pulled from the shelves in the US, Canada etc.

For the last time, the books has not been published globally yet. Every country is a different market, and has different laws in place regarding publication and distribution. If your book gets publish with a large publish house like Penguin which has divisions around the world (like Tina Brown's Palace Papers) then your book will likely be published simultaneously around the world in the English market because it has the manpower to address the laws and standards of each country.

When your book is published by a domestic publisher (e.g. one that only published in your country), the manuscript will be shopped around to international publishers if your publisher feels it will have appeal in other markets. This process takes time and it's why the international release of books comes months (sometimes even a year) later. Often UK books will also be edited for a US market (e.g. spelling changed, different cover, different marketing emphasis etc.). So if you are in the US and you got your hands on a physical copy of the books, it's a UK edition not a US one.

If the book didn't have an US distributor given it's sales in the UK, it will soon enough.

This is a Q&A from an American writer who explains why her books aren't available in the UK. If you're bored and want more info on international distribution laws.

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by Anonymousreply 434July 21, 2022 9:22 PM

I’m waiting on delivery on this book and even if it’s a rehash of what we already know, it will be fun.

I found Scobie’s book on them completely damning. He addresses all the greatest hits—tiara-gate, passive-aggressive war with Kate, etc.—from a completely defensive crouch, which is what guilty people do. And he blames any problem that can’t be explained away on Harry. I was tickled through the read because it confirmed everything we suspected about her.

Tina Brown’s book was similarly damning, though it contained no new source material.

I’m sure everyone who feels comfortable talking about these fools has done so already. The rest will stay mum either because it doesn’t serve their interests to tattle or they fear a lawsuit (good reason given this pair’s history of litigation).

And I don’t feel one bit sorry for the negative attention their getting. If they simply decided that royal life wasn’t for them and moved to the States to build a life with no fuss, then I’d be appalled at the daggers out for them. But that didn’t happen. Instead, they demanded that the world owes them a living because they are living off a meager trust fund of many million pounds, went on international broadcast to trash their immediate family, and never waste an opportunity to tell the us what selfish losers we are for expelling carbon into the atmosphere as they jump on any private plane made available to them.

They are insufferable, humorless, entitled whiners who have publicly disparaged almost every person in their lives who ever did anything nice for them. I suspect we’ll hear the occasional pearl from a nanny, maid, assistant, but others won’t bother because these nitwits have squandered any cache they had and why stick your neck out to ruin them when they’re already ruined.

When they get divorced, Harry’s peeps will start to squawk and we’ll get loads of new material.

by Anonymousreply 435July 21, 2022 9:32 PM

[quote] Not exactly so. The sitting monarch has full authority to strip anyone of their HRH or princely title/rank, at anytime for any reason as the Fount of Honor. The royal ducal title, and place in the LOS are handled differently and would likely need Parliamentary action to revise, especially the latter which has deep implications for the monarchy.

The monarch could do that, theoretically,, but to strip him of his princely title would be unprecedented in modern times except for the case of treason.

It is far more likely he would first be stripped of his ducal title, which would render Meghan (embarrassingly) "The Princess Henry."

by Anonymousreply 436July 21, 2022 9:39 PM

I don’t give a damn if she divorced her husband via FedEx or slept her way into acting roles. There’s no good way to end a relationship and we’ve all been asshole during breakups.

What fascinates me is her utter inability to stage manage the dumb dumbs who make up the royal family. Sophie Wessex has done it masterfully, causing no waves, helpfully shouldering the dullest assignments and giving somewhat legitimate cover to her gay husband. In turn, she’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted. A cushy berth, respect, prestige and secure future for her kids.

Meghan could have had the same. Even if they decided to leave the RF to make $$$, they would have given them an easy out—as they have with other of the Queen’s grandchildren—if they only hadn’t have tried to take the entire monarchy out with them. It seems that the trigger was being told they can’t be half in/half out, because that’s worked disastrously in the past.

How easy it would have been for an “actress” to play a non-threatening role in that family. Stay humble until they think you’re not going to be an agent of chaos and then be invited to bran anything from the table.

by Anonymousreply 437July 21, 2022 9:55 PM

Charles will never strip them of their titles. There’s no up side for him to do it. They’re not getting public funds, so he can’t leverage that as an excuse. It would only make him look petty and vengeful.

Plus, regardless of what as asshole Harry is, he is still Charles’ son. I suspect that his concern about his emotional welfare far outweighs his anger toward him. Especially at this point. That might change if Harry’s book is an all out attack on his father and brother.

Anger softens with time. It takes too much energy to stay angry. My guess is if Harry keeps his trap shut, he’ll be welcomed back into the fold but at a healthy distance. Pleasantries at holidays, gifts sent to Archie/Lily, invited to important events as guests.

But not much other than that…until the divorce. I’ve been in a relationship with a person who was loathed by my friends and family. Even though I didn’t shun them for their hatred of her, it was very difficult not isolating myself from them during the relationship. And, of course they were correct—she was horrible but I felt trapped. When I finally got out, all of them welcomed me back and didn’t hold my bad judgment against me. That said, I didn’t go on Oprah and badmouth them.

I’m certain Harry realizes he’s made a terrible mistake. It seems as if most of his longtime friends and family have distanced themselves. She doesn’t have longterm relationships so she doesn’t nderstand how essential it is to ingratiate yourself to your spouse’s friends to support the relationship.

That’s why I think the relationship is doomed. No one of any consequence is rooting for it to succeed.

by Anonymousreply 438July 21, 2022 10:12 PM

But R437, that's not the life Meghan plotted out for herself. She wants the fanatical adulation Diana received from the public, not the polite niceties Sophie Wessex experiences. Meghan wants idolisation. She's a true narc.

by Anonymousreply 439July 21, 2022 10:23 PM

R434 I was in book publishing for 20 years. Unless you’re published by one of the main houses, you aren’t published globally. That’s what events like the Frankfort book Fair are all about. Publishers from different countries buying publishing rights from other houses.

This publisher will have to find a US partner before it’s available here.

by Anonymousreply 440July 21, 2022 10:23 PM

^ooops! R434 I meant to say you are absolutely correct! And I supported your post! Sorry! love, R440

by Anonymousreply 441July 21, 2022 10:24 PM

Finished it.

While it revealed very little that was new to me (apart from detail on Thomas and Doria’s marriage and the inference of multiple affairs by Meghan) what it did do is to forensically build a portrait of Meghan as a lying, manipulative and ruthless user and disposer of people.

Oh, the other bit of news to me was that Harry was installed in another house in Toronto for a week while she was still with Cory. Classy Meghan!

by Anonymousreply 442July 21, 2022 11:51 PM

So you already knew that the Harkles had an agreement with CBS for exclusive rights to Archie's Christening with the Queen and Philip present?

by Anonymousreply 443July 21, 2022 11:55 PM

Anything about Northwestern?

Or the tea throwing in Oz?

Or the possible early marriage?

by Anonymousreply 444July 21, 2022 11:57 PM

The early marriage has already been discussed. She did in fact have an early marriage- with husband no.1. For the Oprah interview this was altered and attributed to wedding no.2 - with Harry present and complicit in the lie. How fucked up is that.

by Anonymousreply 445July 22, 2022 12:15 AM

I never understood why Harry doesn't want to stay in the royal family but yet wants to keep the Duke title. He has his freedom and lots of money yet wants the title to stay relevant? He'll definitely won't be invited back once his book comes out and he trashes Camilla.

by Anonymousreply 446July 22, 2022 12:29 AM

There was just this month a YouGov poll taken that shows how far Meghan's popularity has slipped recently in the US.

According to the poll, many Americans are completely baffled as to why she has retained her royal title after her bombshell allegations against the royal family.

They seem to think she is trying to have her cake and eat it too.

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by Anonymousreply 447July 22, 2022 12:35 AM

A resonant anecdote from Bower’s book, and one that demonstrates that he has new stories: prior to the wedding, Harry introduced Meghan to Diana’s sisters and one of Diana’s closest friends. Harry told them that Meghan was suffering the same persecution and troubles as Diana. Their reaction? This woman is nothing like Diana. Indeed, she probably shouldn’t join the RF . . .

by Anonymousreply 448July 22, 2022 12:37 AM

I can’t find this book on Amazon. I’m in the States. What is the release date? I thought it was today?

by Anonymousreply 449July 22, 2022 12:41 AM

You might get it quickest by giving your email this place and they'll notify you when it's back in stock

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by Anonymousreply 450July 22, 2022 12:51 AM

I’m hoping there is some information on how exactly it went down that they were booted from KP and offered Frogmore Cottage.

by Anonymousreply 451July 22, 2022 12:52 AM

SOME KIND SOUL DOWNLOADED THE ENTIRE E-BOOK ON GOOGLE DRIVE!

It's in a PDF file, I scanned it for viruses, and its fine. I am currently reading it.

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by Anonymousreply 452July 22, 2022 1:13 AM

[quote]While it revealed very little that was new to me

The ongoing search for "special" seems to be an ongoing theme from this poster, as well as the willfully naif/stupid Duchess. Both congratulated with one hand.

by Anonymousreply 453July 22, 2022 1:15 AM

Calm down R443 I was just giving my impression.

By the way if you’re going to be a smart-arse it doesn’t help to open a sentence with “So” - it makes you sound like an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 454July 22, 2022 1:18 AM

8 copies are purchasable on US ebay out of 11 originally in stock, for $31.18. . . with an additional shipping price from the UK of only $35.09

by Anonymousreply 455July 22, 2022 1:22 AM

R45 I am happy for you to give examples of both counts (“specialness” of Bower’s book and defending Meghan as naïf or stupid) because you can’t. In fact I loved the book and I am absolutely no defender of Meghan. Quite the opposite.

Go ahead.

by Anonymousreply 456July 22, 2022 1:22 AM

DM is reporting as of about an hour ago that the book claims CAMILLA made jokes about whether Archie would have a "ginger Afro."

Isn't this worthy of an independent thread?

by Anonymousreply 457July 22, 2022 1:23 AM

The book claimed that there was a rumour that Camilla made the comment about the ginger Afro, not that she had said it. There’s a difference.

by Anonymousreply 458July 22, 2022 1:25 AM

R458: I believe you, but that is not how the DM story reports it. Sure, no surprise there . . . but bazillions of people are now reading that.

by Anonymousreply 460July 22, 2022 1:27 AM

R444 nothing about the Northwestern bullying allegations, if that’s what you mean. A very carefully worded sentence about a cup of tea going into the air (not thrown) and nothing about the first marriage (I.e. the one that allegedly happened before Trevor).

by Anonymousreply 461July 22, 2022 1:28 AM

The DM story states that the book "claims that Camilla allegedly asked Prince Harry if his unborn child would have a 'ginger Afro'"

That's a bombshell given the Oprah interview apocalypse

by Anonymousreply 462July 22, 2022 1:29 AM

Didn’t Harry have a ginger Afro? That is, back when he had hair…

by Anonymousreply 463July 22, 2022 1:30 AM

Well, if true, then that's Harry's big blackmail leverage gone now.

by Anonymousreply 464July 22, 2022 1:30 AM

R462, but Meghan supporters had been banking in the “royal racist” being William or Charles. If it’s just Camilla, it hardly matters.

by Anonymousreply 465July 22, 2022 1:31 AM

The Palace has already issued a statement calling the Afro claim "nonsense."

by Anonymousreply 466July 22, 2022 1:32 AM

R462, also, Meghan claimed that the comment was about the potential skin color of her child.

by Anonymousreply 467July 22, 2022 1:33 AM

Camilla is an old bitch but she knows how to play the long game. IF she did say that,it will be a big nothing burger.

by Anonymousreply 468July 22, 2022 1:33 AM

R459 you want me to prove that I didn’t say something?

You’re not very bright, are you?

by Anonymousreply 469July 22, 2022 1:36 AM

Yes, I too noted the discrepancy versus Afro versus the skin-color claim in the O interview. But it's in the ballpark enough to be a Molotov cocktail for the RF. Bower is a malicious minx, isn't he . . . willing to punch Camilla but not William/Charles . . .

by Anonymousreply 470July 22, 2022 1:38 AM

The inference that I read was that the rumour about what Camilla may have said came from the Sussexes. But that’s possibly my bias.

by Anonymousreply 471July 22, 2022 1:45 AM

Ginger afros ARE hilarious though.

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by Anonymousreply 472July 22, 2022 1:50 AM

That alleged tea throwing really is the Holy Grail for the Tumblr crowd, isn’t it.

by Anonymousreply 473July 22, 2022 1:51 AM

r467 what can i say-Meghan lies .Habitually and in an addictive manner even when there is no obvious real benefit to doing so.

r448 Why is it so important to Harry and Meghan that she be seen as comparable and like Diana??It is quite emotionally disturbing and really unhealthy. It seems Harry is exploiting his mothers memory more than anyone.

by Anonymousreply 474July 22, 2022 2:01 AM

r470 I dont think it will be a molotov cocktail or really damaging at all.At this point most people in the UK would shrug or not care less.

Bower wrote a whole book attacking or punching Charles!!

by Anonymousreply 475July 22, 2022 2:04 AM

Correction to my earlier reply - the wording is “According to one report, Meghan allegedly threw a cup of tea into the air”.

by Anonymousreply 476July 22, 2022 2:04 AM

R474, I had assumed that the Diana fetish was fake, that Harry was just cynically using Diana’s memory, but Bower believes it is real and that Meghan exploits this: “You don’t want the press to kill me the way they killed your mother!” It’s possible that Windsor men, such as Edward VII and Charles, like bossy mother figures.

by Anonymousreply 478July 22, 2022 2:08 AM

r478 But why does Harry via sunshine Sachs placing stories about them in the media ie the press about 3 or 4 times a week to keep interest in them alive if he really wants to escape the press? I think the reality is he has a I want my cake and I want to eat it attitude to the media just as his mother did Im afraid to say.

by Anonymousreply 479July 22, 2022 2:11 AM

[quote] But why does Harry via sunshine Sachs placing stories about them in the media ie the press about 3 or 4 times a week to keep interest in them alive if he really wants to escape the press?

That makes zero sense grammatically,

Care to try again?

by Anonymousreply 480July 22, 2022 3:53 AM

Tom Bower spilled some tea about the Jubilee Service at St. Paul. Remember there was a issue because H&M arrived late and then wanted Beatrice and her husband to move down. When the usher informed him that he must sit in the middle, Harry asked "says who" and the usher replied "The Queen."

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by Anonymousreply 481July 22, 2022 3:56 AM

r480 Prince Harry and Meghan pay Sunshine Sachs a PR company to put 3 or 4 articles per week about them in the media and press.Why would Harry do that and want to maintain interest in them if he hates the press and thinks they killed his mother?

by Anonymousreply 482July 22, 2022 3:57 AM

r481 Oh My for a guy who has recently being preaching equality he is pretty entitled in attitude and status ob

r481 Oh my for a guy recently preaching about equality he has a very arrogant entitled attitude and is very status obsessed.

by Anonymousreply 483July 22, 2022 4:00 AM

It’s hilarious that their little late arrival scheme didn’t work and that the smack down by the usher was in full sight and sound of the Cambridges.

by Anonymousreply 484July 22, 2022 4:06 AM

R482, They will gladly accept laudatory articles. Criticism rips their hearts out.

by Anonymousreply 485July 22, 2022 4:26 AM

Harry questioning the usher- who was the head of the Yeoman of the Guard (aka the Queen's personal bodyguards) with an arrogant "who do you think you are to ell me where to sit" and then immediatle finding he'd smacked his head straight into a great big Royal wall of Go Fuck Yourself is one of the best things I've heard today.

by Anonymousreply 486July 22, 2022 4:34 AM

R433 the irony is Catherine was glowing at the wedding, the post-pregnancy weight looked great on her.

by Anonymousreply 487July 22, 2022 5:07 AM

The massive, Meghan-created fallout with the Beckhams is now confirmed.

Also mentioned in the article: She fell out with suits co-stars because of her bullying

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by Anonymousreply 488July 22, 2022 5:13 AM

r488 This just highlights all the more their audacity in wanting to then be invited to Brooklyn Beckhams wedding.Beyond delusional.Why in those circumstances with that history would they want gob***te Harkles there?

by Anonymousreply 489July 22, 2022 5:19 AM

R488 your link doesn't mention either of those things

by Anonymousreply 490July 22, 2022 5:24 AM

When this war started,I knew it was going to get pretty sordid. But even I had no idea how very clueless H+M really are. BP just sat back and waited for these two idiots to get enough rope to hang themselves. And they are doing so hilariously !

by Anonymousreply 491July 22, 2022 5:25 AM

Thanks for the link, R481.

But what I loved was Bower's saying that when Harry asked who told the guard to tell him where to sit, the guard replied "Your grandmother".

In that situation, that reply makes it a very, very personal answer directly from granny.

Love it.

by Anonymousreply 492July 22, 2022 5:29 AM

R458 please link to BP denying Camilla joked about an orange afro. I don't believe it happened.

by Anonymousreply 493July 22, 2022 5:50 AM

Many thanx to R452. The first chapter details Doria's ne-er to well life, moving from one failed job to another, from one failed relationship to another, all the while hanging out and smoking dope with her friends. And not letting marriage or motherhood overly intrude on her lifestyle. No surprise that Doria's past was kept out of the media. Because it illustrates from whom Meg's absorbed her use 'em, lose 'em, move on past/present as well as her on-going quest to keep the disparate players in her past far away from one another.

by Anonymousreply 494July 22, 2022 5:54 AM

So it was Camilla who made the supposedly racist comment, a dumb joke that Harry laughed at. Big deal.

by Anonymousreply 496July 22, 2022 6:04 AM

I remember too, when she was pregnant and after Arcie was born all the meg fans were posting pictures of red haired biracial kids with afro hair. It was a dream of her fandom at the time. So surely that makes Cam a Squaddie!

by Anonymousreply 497July 22, 2022 6:10 AM

r488, like r490 I too see nothing in your linked article about the Beckhams or feuding with her Suits co-stars. Maybe you linked to the wrong article or, more likely, the article was changed after you linked it. At any rate, can you tell us what you read about the Beckhams and about Duchess Pinocchio's co-stars?

by Anonymousreply 498July 22, 2022 6:10 AM

I found a different US mag article that talks about the Beckhams, the co-stars and other things not in the original article. Let's see how this link works.

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by Anonymousreply 499July 22, 2022 6:34 AM

Tom Bower has been doing the interview circuit on British television, and there are two surprising things he keeps saying that I think are really intreresting:

1) No matter if things are not going exactly going to plan, Meghan has been remarkably successful if you look at the path of her life. She started out as no one, and now, like it or not, she is the Duchess of Sussex and married to a British prince who is the son of the future king. She is an international celebrity, and has also established herself who plays by her own rules.

2) The Queen and Charles really just want Harry and Meghan to be happy. They are not cooking up big long-term revenge schemes for them, but usually are just trying to do what they can to accommodate them as much as they can, within reason and according to protocol. When they do things that displease Harry and Meghan, it's not because the Queen and Charles are being spiteful, but because they have to think first of the future of the royal family, which means promoting the Cambridges as the future of the monarchy.

Bower is clear that he thinks Meghan's both appalling and ruthless, and that she has stepped on all kinds of people to get what she wants. But he has also said he's admired her sense of purpose and her ability to achieve most of what she's wanted so far.

by Anonymousreply 500July 22, 2022 6:35 AM

I'm not worried about what happened. I'm two places ahead of Harry in the line of succession to the throne. My Mom will be Queen. I'll bide my time.

by Anonymousreply 501July 22, 2022 6:36 AM

R499 the Beckhams are mentioned only in the headline of your link, and Suits not at all. So someone is busy scrubbing these articles as soon as they go up.

by Anonymousreply 502July 22, 2022 6:39 AM

Well, I had the same linking problem with the US article that r488 did. It must be a problem with the backend at US. Go the US article link, click on the US logo in the upper left corner for the homepage and scroll down for the correct link.

by Anonymousreply 503July 22, 2022 6:42 AM

r498. I can't explain why it's not in the article when I can read it - weird! Ok so I'll copy and paste:

Re Suits:

'Suits' Feud With Sarah Rafferty The former actress' relationship with some of her Suits costars was allegedly "troubled" by the time she left the series in 2018. "An argument had erupted over Sarah Rafferty," Bower's book claims. "Meghan had asked Lori Sale, her merchandising agent, to consider representing Rafferty ... for commercial endorsement contracts. The two met and Sale was enthusiastic. Hearing the news, Meghan called and accused Sale of a conflict of interest."

The alleged drama led to more accusations of Meghan "being manipulative — a criticism which several Suits actors shared but did not disclose to outsiders," according to Bower.

by Anonymousreply 504July 22, 2022 6:47 AM

Huh, that is weird, R504. I'm outside the US, so perhaps it is an issue with geoblocking.

by Anonymousreply 505July 22, 2022 6:50 AM

Re the Beckhams:

Clashing With the Beckhams Before leaving their senior royal duties, Harry and Meghan began to grow concerned that someone within their inner circle was leaking stories about them to the British press. According to Bower, the California native accused Victoria of "indiscretion" — and Harry doubled down on the assertion during a phone call with David. "Outraged, Beckham's truthful denials damaged their relationship," the book claims.

by Anonymousreply 506July 22, 2022 6:52 AM

I remember the Beckham story at the time. Harry rang David, accusing Vic of using Meg for pubicity. The Beckham source said Meg wanted free clothes and Vic said no.

by Anonymousreply 507July 22, 2022 6:53 AM

She got lucky (if we can call it that) with Harry. She was mid-30s and had never risen above the D-list, was busy chasing the likes of Ashley Cole, Matt Cardle and the Northern Irish golfer - at least one of whom (Cole, who was already well past his own prime in 2015) bragged about turning her down. Then she got set up with Harry and that was that. No denying what an achievement that was for her, everything she ever wanted, but I do think it was more extraordinary luck than anything else. Hooking an idiot, especially if you're hot, isn't a big deal. If the idiot is a wealthy Prince, then it becomes one.

I do believe Harry has ruined his own life in marrying her.

by Anonymousreply 508July 22, 2022 6:57 AM

[quote] She got lucky (if we can call it that) with Harry.

“Marcia, it doesn't make any difference how I got there. The point is that I've arrived.” -- Molly Weber

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by Anonymousreply 509July 22, 2022 7:01 AM

The other thing about Beckham that Bower states is that it was likely someone in a beauty salon who was leaking the information Victoria Beckham was accused of leaking.

by Anonymousreply 510July 22, 2022 7:10 AM

Becks is gagging for a knighthood, no way would he slag off Will and Kate or be a chum of Harry.

Loser boy just doesn't get it does he?

by Anonymousreply 511July 22, 2022 7:17 AM

Why the heck would Vicky Beckham leek gossip about them? Meghan is mind boggling crazy

by Anonymousreply 512July 22, 2022 7:18 AM

[quote] Why the heck would Vicky Beckham leek gossip about them?

Because she knows her onions.

by Anonymousreply 513July 22, 2022 7:40 AM

The part where Meghan pretends to be her own PR person and goes psychotic because someone posted on Instagram about doing a photoshoot with her when she was still a nobody is both pathetic and hilarious.

I would love to see those emails.

by Anonymousreply 514July 22, 2022 7:40 AM

Reminds me of "John Barron" aka DJT

by Anonymousreply 515July 22, 2022 7:43 AM

History repeats itself and yet another reason why Megs goes to extraordinary efforts to keep the disparate players in her life as far apart as possible:

From Revenge, by Tom Bower, Page 47:

[quote] The night before the wedding ceremony, Trevor described in his speech during the dinner a book he had prepared about his and Meghan’s lives. The book’s conclusion, said Trevor, was his pledge to give Meghan [bold]‘the family home she never has had’.[/bold] Thomas’s and Doria’s jaws fell. ‘We looked aghast at each other,’ said Thomas. ‘She had had two good families and all the love and attention any child could want.’ Both wondered what Meghan had told Trevor about her childhood. Why had she concealed her past? Or why had she distorted her origins? What other ‘secrets’, Thomas wondered, had his daughter told Trevor?

by Anonymousreply 516July 22, 2022 8:29 AM

Wowwwwww r516.

So clearly she pushed that lie on Trevor, and found it got her married to him when she wanted to be, and then pulled out that same lie when she was trying to convince Harry to pop the question.

by Anonymousreply 517July 22, 2022 8:32 AM

I wish we could just fast-forward through the pointless remainder of this litigious, race-baiting whore's life so that all involved could tell the unvarnished truth without fear of repercussion.

by Anonymousreply 518July 22, 2022 8:42 AM

R517 And, like Trevor, Harry publically stated during their engagement in 2017 the exact same thing about his family "becoming the family Megs never had" as well. I wonder how many of the 105 people at Megs first wedding thought "Weird. Trev said the same thing".

by Anonymousreply 519July 22, 2022 8:49 AM

Trevor was pretty dumb and rude to bring that up in front of Meghan’s parents ffs

by Anonymousreply 520July 22, 2022 9:14 AM

Well, it was rude, but sometimes you need to know the truth so you can figure out how to proceed with your life - especially when there's a pathological lying sociopath to deal with. Only the truth will set you free. So LISTEN TO IT, HARRY!

Not that he's not one too - I don't know - but people need to see (Nazi uniforms etc.) and hear the truth about Harry too.

It's devastating to other people to sugar coat this situation - and if Netflix does it, I hope they go down the drain. (I haven't watch The Crown - maybe they're lying worse than Martin Bashir... I'd be sad to know that.)

What's going on with this crazy world when truth doesn't matter any more - just fanbases or something - delusion matters more than truth to WAY too many people.

by Anonymousreply 521July 22, 2022 9:44 AM

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by Anonymousreply 522July 22, 2022 9:51 AM

Will she try to be Madonna? Oh lord help us if she barges into Congress like that Marjorie person. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see - and I'll be flabbergasted if they're still married in a year or two.

by Anonymousreply 523July 22, 2022 10:02 AM

Someone in the comments section of the DM has diagnosed dear old Meghan as a communal narcissist. She certainly fits that description.

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by Anonymousreply 524July 22, 2022 10:10 AM

Yet more history repeats itself. From Revenge by Tom Bower, Page 48:

[quote] Both Trevor’s parents were unhappy that their son was not marrying someone Jewish, and in particular that he was marrying Meghan. From their first introduction, both had disliked Meghan’s aloof self-interest. Over the years, she had shown neither loyalty nor intimacy to the Engelsons. Neither believed she would be willing to make the sacrifices for the creation of a proper family home. Trevor had ignored their opposition to the marriage. Since their son was determined to marry Meghan, there was no alternative but to make the best of the situation.

Ibid, Page 49:

[quote] With reggae music in the background, the guests began drinking rum and lager and smoking the cannabis handed out to everyone in small bags by the couple. Unnoticed by the guests, Meghan demanded the official video of the party. To Thomas Markle’s surprise, she destroyed it soon after the wedding. She wanted no visual record of the marriage. By default, only her father’s photos survived.

by Anonymousreply 525July 22, 2022 10:33 AM

R522 I am VERY glad that’s finally been highlighted. It’s the exact reason I disliked her from the beginning. She went to Rwanda and then allowed photographs of herself there to be used in an article entitled “Humanitarian Fashion”. One of the poorest countries in the world was used as a backdrop for a fashion feature.

She’s an absolute cunt.

by Anonymousreply 526July 22, 2022 10:34 AM

Oh. My. God! So, I've just heard some guy in England has written a book about little old me! I am truly humbled by this honour. As a naive and winsome ingenue, I myself feel I don't warrant such attention but who am I to stop art! I can't believe I'm a muse! While I try to process these developments and the excitement of this publication, I will of course maintain my commitments to all those charities and foundations I devote my time and energy to. Thank you to all my supporters.

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by Anonymousreply 527July 22, 2022 10:37 AM

r526, I visited Somalia and wrote about the natural thinness of refugees and how unfair it was that I spent my life dieting. Meg is an amateur.

by Anonymousreply 528July 22, 2022 10:45 AM

Fucking hell, R528 - is that true? How disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 529July 22, 2022 10:49 AM

When she went to Rwanda, she could've brought some Doritos . . . just sayin'.

by Anonymousreply 530July 22, 2022 10:53 AM

All of these anecdotes speak to show how intellectually stunted Harry is. His IQ most likely is in middling double digits. A swathe of has-beens and never-were's could see through Meghan and her quest for fame. Somehow Harry felt she needed to be saved, offered sanctuary with the 'family she never had' and would be the future mother of his children. What a fucking tool Harry. Oh well, live by the sword.....

by Anonymousreply 531July 22, 2022 10:54 AM

Don't be too sure princess R5101. We're just one plane crash away from MY mom being queen.

by Anonymousreply 532July 22, 2022 10:59 AM

The thing is, he got pussywhipped, R532. Pussywhipped and sucked off until she had that ring on her finger.

They probably have no sex these days, and, from Meghan's point of view, what for? She has got two meal tickets that will tie her eternally to the BRF.

by Anonymousreply 533July 22, 2022 11:03 AM

The Beckham story is old news. Meghan accused Victoria of leaking to the press. Harry, the simp, called David to confront him and it was awkward. Supposedly, it took a while to her over the awkwardness, but all is right with the couples. I’m not so sure about that, because I haven’t heard the Sussexes name drop the Beckhams since they hired their old household manager in LA.

by Anonymousreply 534July 22, 2022 11:14 AM

R493: It wasn't an official BP statement. "Royal sources" were quoted by DM as follows.

The DM article first said, "Royal sources soundly trashed claims that Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, joked to Prince Harry that it would be 'funny' if his unborn child with [MM] had 'ginger Afro hair.'" The article continued, "The incendiary claims were made in Tom Bower's new no-holds-barred book: [TITLE]."

Several paragaphs below that, as well as in the bold-faced dek under the main hed, the article stated, "royal sources speaking to the MailOnline said, 'This suggestion is nonsense.'" The next sentence then read, "Clarence House has not commented."

by Anonymousreply 535July 22, 2022 11:34 AM

Meghan Markle can go fuck herself up the ass with a baseball bat.

by Anonymousreply 536July 22, 2022 11:39 AM

I'm just hoping more of her victims will feel empowered to speak out. Always seems that that's how it works. An avalanche starts with one rock falling, then the next, till you can't stop the momentum. Seems like they are ripe for a devastating pile on. Even Mandela's grandson piled on.

by Anonymousreply 537July 22, 2022 11:40 AM

R536, given the loose snatch she must have from fucking all those guys, that'd be the only way for her to feel any kind of fuck friction.

by Anonymousreply 538July 22, 2022 11:47 AM

Does the book go into the claims of being suicidal and being denied medical care?

by Anonymousreply 539July 22, 2022 12:19 PM

The woman on this channel reads the juicy chapters from the book

This is about the Kate & Meghan incident

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by Anonymousreply 540July 22, 2022 12:31 PM

This one about the Vanity Fair cover

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by Anonymousreply 541July 22, 2022 12:33 PM

Her critics are circling the wagon. The Sussex stans are lunatics. Glorious to see the implosion. Let's finish the pair of them now!

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by Anonymousreply 542July 22, 2022 12:39 PM

Megs ultimate life goal, then, now, always, reaffirming why London and the BRF were never her final destination. From Revenge, by Tom Bower, Page 96:

[quote] ‘I want to be a success at home,’ she (Megs) repeated during the Cayman trip (in 2016). She feared that returning to Los Angeles would end in grief. Nelthorpe-Cowne (Megs agent, whom she eventually ghosted) offered a solution. ‘Come to London,’ she suggested. Meghan’s best hope, Nelthorpe-Cowne explained, was to break through in Britain and, on the strength of that success, bounce back to Los Angeles. ‘I’ll introduce you to Matthew Freud,’ said Nelthorpe-Cowne, although she secretly feared that the well-established Freuds PR agency would not be interested in an unknown actress. ‘Freuds could create your brand in Britain,’ continued Nelthorpe-Cowne. The word ‘brand’ triggered Meghan’s interest. ‘OK,’ she agreed. ‘But I don’t want to stay long. I want to go back to Los Angeles. I want to be a success in Los Angeles, my home.’

by Anonymousreply 543July 22, 2022 12:55 PM

Take away from all of this is women like Meghan are crazy bitches. They're the Angelinas, Gwyneths, Madonnas and Ellens. Demanding to be loved publicly, become a 'brand' but are absolute ruthless cunts to those closest to them. Philanthropy is a mask for not giving a fuck about anyone but themselves. Men- the Donald and his ilk, never go down the same route- although we know they are raging bastards and they get off on that, they don't force the bullshit charitable narrative. Women like Meghan can't be themselves, cause their 'self' is a dumpster fire of fucked up humanity.

by Anonymousreply 544July 22, 2022 1:09 PM

Confirmation of Megs, the imperious, abusive cunt from Hell. From Revenge, Tom Bower, Page 100-101:

[quote] Meghan demanded that the agency reserve a bigger suite at the more expensive Gault hotel. ‘She insists,’ said her agent. The production team resisted. ‘She wants photographs of the hotel rooms and the rooms assigned to her on the set,’ shouted her agent. Next, Meghan demanded that she be registered in the hotel under an alias, Jane Smith. ‘Her identity must be kept secret,’ said her agent, Lori Sale. ‘Meghan doesn’t want to be hassled by the hotel staff, other guests or photographers.’ The production team were flummoxed. No one in French speaking Montreal knew Meghan.

[quote]Inside the hotel room, Meghan’s complaints hit another high. Ignoring the flower displays, bottles of her favourite wine and even a special calligraphy pen carefully laid out on the tables, she criticised the hotel’s Tempurpedic bathrobe and slippers. She wanted Dior. The tea was the wrong blend and the vegan green juice was warm.

[quote] Meghan’s arrival on the set at 7:10am was anticipated. ‘The Princess is coming,’ sniggered one assistant. Hard-faced, Meghan entered the restaurant avoiding eye contact with the crew. Her agent had demanded that only the designated few on the set were authorised to speak to her. That order had been passed among the 58 members of the Canadian production team.

[quote] Throughout the day Meghan appeared for her shots escorted by her entourage – Felix the hairdresser and Marco the make-up artist – and then returned to her room. Both were ordered never to leave her side. ‘She was always fed up,’ one crew member noted, ‘sighing, huffing and rolling her eyes at things. It was heavy-going working with her.’ Another noticed that she would be ‘super sweet’ with Felix and Marco and then within seconds turn to the crew and be ‘super-disagreeable’.

by Anonymousreply 545July 22, 2022 1:18 PM

^^^ Took place in Montreal, March 2016.

by Anonymousreply 546July 22, 2022 1:20 PM

Was sister Samantha paid off? She's been quiet of late.

by Anonymousreply 547July 22, 2022 1:26 PM

R547, isn't there some lawsuit against Samantha initiated by the litigious couple? Maybe Samantha was advised to keep quiet.

by Anonymousreply 548July 22, 2022 1:30 PM

Pathological liar alert Part 2,889:

And one night during a dinner party with friends it is reported that she (Meghan) took credit for coming up with the recipe for a courgette pasta dish, despite that accolade belonging to Cory (Vitiello).

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by Anonymousreply 549July 22, 2022 1:39 PM

R539, it does indeed. Bower proceeds carefully (he's quite sure that the Sussexes were obsessed with negative press to the point of paranoia) but makes it clear that the story about Meghan being "suicidal" doesn't seem to add up.

by Anonymousreply 550July 22, 2022 1:54 PM

R536 - God knows she's probably let enough men do so in hopes of gaining advantage to now be able to accommodate one.

by Anonymousreply 551July 22, 2022 2:08 PM

Interesting to imagine how Harry is processing all of this. While he’ll no doubt want to defend his Diana stand-in, part of him has to be wakening to the fact that he was totally duped.

by Anonymousreply 552July 22, 2022 2:10 PM

Samantha's case is proceeding in court after Meghan's legal team failed to get the suit dismissed.

I have doubts about Samantha ultimately prevailing in the libel suit, but what has come out that should be brought out more is that in her argument for dismissal of the case, Meghan stated that what she said on Oprah was "opinion, not fact". Period.

I suspect this quite important statement hasn't been made more of because it IS part of an ongoing legal case.

But, really, for Meghan to state that in her court papers should have been up in 18pt type in the media, because it confirms that she was lying the whole time for personal gain on Oprah.

by Anonymousreply 553July 22, 2022 2:12 PM

R552 He will always blame family, media and others for his mistakes. He's so blinded and deluded, he's in Patti Hearst territory.

by Anonymousreply 554July 22, 2022 2:14 PM

Did anyone else get banned yesterday? This thread seemed quiet as I watched. I've wound up banned before but only on heavy bot/Megantoinette days like yesterday was, so either I managed to piss off enough people to come by it honestly (which I doubt) or they target certain posters wherever they organize before they arrive or somehow bots can be targeted. I know nothing about how the dark arts of swarming content you don't like but it seemed a coincidence that happens from time to time. Anyway, on the other hand it was a fairly productive day elsewhere! Curious for your thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 555July 22, 2022 2:14 PM

R552 - He will double down on his attachment to Meghan. He's an idiot with serious mental issues who let the woman make a fool of him. That appearance at the UN with her stroking him, clutching him, soothing him like a toddler, is what has remained of his UN appearance, not anything Harry said. She might as well have castrated him right there and popped his gonads into that huge purse she was carrying.

But what Harry thinks is tangential at this point. What is more interesting is what Netflix and Spotify and Meghan's political "friends" will think as so much that is out of the horse's mouth is now out there about what a horrible, horrible person she is.

by Anonymousreply 556July 22, 2022 2:15 PM

It is surprisingly quiet here today R555, especially with the media printing excerpts of the book. The Sussex stans/Sunshine Sachs have quite possibly reported posters.

by Anonymousreply 557July 22, 2022 2:16 PM

She sounds like a nasty troll. Anyone can see she's a gold-digger if she's willing to go from a looker like that chef to someone as unattractive as Harry.

by Anonymousreply 558July 22, 2022 2:16 PM

[quote]Trevor was pretty dumb and rude to bring that up in front of Meghan’s parents ffs

I wonder what he was told. Sometimes you forget your manners when you're convinced of a massive wrong.

by Anonymousreply 559July 22, 2022 2:20 PM

R557 The trolls have had no impact whatsoever, and they can "report" till the cows come home. One thread reached 600 posts in no time, people are commenting exhaustively, and everyone also does have to get on with their regular lives.

This thread is Part II and headed for 600 posts imminently. The "New Extract" thread is also up to hundreds of posts. As is Harry and Meghan in NYC.

There are four threads at least working, and yet we're still closing in on a need for Part III. It isn't quiet, it's just diffused over different threads.

by Anonymousreply 560July 22, 2022 2:21 PM

Anything in the book about Jessica Mulroney? Her one time BBF that Meghan froze out but only after using her and Jessica's daughter to upset Kate and Charlotte. Textbook narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 561July 22, 2022 2:22 PM

R437 says "we all are assholes during breakups."

No, we're not. Most of us are reasonable people who don't forget we have loved and likely still love the person from whom we must separate.

Sorry your experience leads you to project your personal experience to every person in the world.

by Anonymousreply 562July 22, 2022 2:26 PM

If R437 thinks the monarchy is full of dumb dumbs, she hasn't been paying attention. Check the polls.

by Anonymousreply 563July 22, 2022 2:29 PM

R561, one thing that leapt out at me was the reference to Markle being oddly attached to Mulroney during tightsgate. It was a surprising characterization.

Is there anything in the book about tiaragate?

by Anonymousreply 564July 22, 2022 2:31 PM

Yes r564, Bower confirms that Harry screamed "What Meghan Wants Meghan Gets!!" at the Queen's aide Angela Kelley, and further confirms that the Queen then called him on the carpet and gave him a dressing down.

by Anonymousreply 565July 22, 2022 2:46 PM

R564, Meghan's attachment to Mulroney was simply because she was using the latter to her own ends. Play Mulroney and her daughter off Kate and hers.

by Anonymousreply 566July 22, 2022 2:49 PM

The Telegraph review was out yesterday. The Telegraph is not exactly Markledom, but it's review of the book was mixed and rating just 2/5 stars.

"This much-trailed account of the Sussexes’ split with the Royal family is a catalogue of awful behaviour – but it seems slanted and rehashed."

“Self-centred, manipulative and demanding.” “A media junkie determined to exploit her new status to create a global image.” “A chancer with perhaps a limited sense of humour.” Bower has Meghan pegged as a schemer who saw Prince Harry as her ticket to the big time and is now determined to ruin the Queen’s final years. Not that Harry comes out of this book any better: he’s “spoiled, badly educated, simple-minded and demanding”. Together, Bower says, they are “agents of destruction”, but only Meghan has the brains to carry out their evil plan.

The author has described his modus operandi (he has written 25 books, the most recent being a scandal-free biography of Simon Cowell) as “find the victims”. The best and most convincing bits of Revenge feature mostly anonymous accounts by the little people in Meghan’s line of fire. For instance, the team who worked with her on an ad campaign for a Canadian fashion brand, and didn’t hold back: “A bully filled with a narcissist entitlement complex… sarcastic, condescending, demeaning”. Or the mothers of Harry’s friends, who were disappointed when introduced to his new girlfriend at a wedding: “Not only did she quibble about the food, but behaved ‘princessy’.” A literary agent calls Meghan “one of the most unpleasant people we’ve ever dealt with”.

Claims of Meghan’s diva behaviour appear in every chapter. There are also lengthy accounts of the misery allegedly endured by the Kensington Palace team in the face of Meghan’s demands. During a trip to Fiji, Bower reports – albeit lifted from a newspaper, not his own research – one aide was seen “with tears running down her face… humiliation etched on her features”.

The last quote illustrates one of two problems with this book. With a handful of exceptions, it is assembled from information already in the public domain, although no doubt Bower has secured his own supporting evidence. Tempers flaring over the wedding preparations, the couple at loggerheads with the Palace over their exit, a very boring legal battle with the Mail on Sunday – it has all been told. One of the few new stories concerns Meghan berating Harry’s old friends during a shooting weekend after they come out with sexist and trans jokes. (This sounds suspiciously of-the-moment. Were people really making trans jokes in 2016?)

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by Anonymousreply 567July 22, 2022 2:53 PM

The Times is more damning of the subject than the writer but even it opens with:

This 400-page long demolition job is so relentless you begin to feel sorry for the Duchess of Sussex, says Melanie Reid

Nonetheless the review skilfully weaves together the greatest hits in the book.

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by Anonymousreply 568July 22, 2022 3:00 PM

What will Meghan be like in an interview when she's 80?

by Anonymousreply 569July 22, 2022 3:03 PM

"Harry? Harry who? I had no idea who he was".

The lying cunt. From Revenge, by Tom Bower, Page 110:

[quote] As Meghan carried on whispering with excitement, Nelthorpe-Cowne (Meg's agent) interrupted, ‘Do you know what you’re doing? Do you know anything about him?’ Meghan replied, ‘I’ve googled Harry. I’ve gone deeply into his life.’ Nelthorpe-Cowne was left in no doubt that Meghan had carefully researched every aspect of Harry and his past life. She understood precisely the man she was meeting: needy, volatile, unhappy and seeking a soulmate.

According to Bower, Megs pursuaded Violet von Westenholz, whose parents were friends with Prince Charles, and who knew Prince Harry well, to arrange a blind date with Harry. Violet send Harry photos of Megs. And the rest is the on-going train wreck.

by Anonymousreply 570July 22, 2022 3:11 PM

Archive of Times review to get past the paywall.

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by Anonymousreply 571July 22, 2022 3:15 PM

[quote]"becoming the family Megs never had"

So Harry took her in as a rescue?

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by Anonymousreply 574July 22, 2022 3:26 PM

R570 did she send this pic with her big fake tits?

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by Anonymousreply 575July 22, 2022 3:26 PM

What Meghan Wants would be a good title for the next book.

Say what you will, the woman is having books written about her. She did it – became "iconic" in her fashion.

by Anonymousreply 576July 22, 2022 3:43 PM

Photo of her First husband

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by Anonymousreply 577July 22, 2022 3:52 PM

Sparkles: From Rwanda to Red Carpet, Shamelessly

by Anonymousreply 578July 22, 2022 4:47 PM

The threads, and the entire site slows down for a large portion of the day, when prime time gets turned on. It was on for almost 9 hours off and on the past few days.

by Anonymousreply 579July 22, 2022 5:01 PM

Do you suppose the bots trigger PT?

by Anonymousreply 580July 22, 2022 5:06 PM

No, bots do not trigger prime time. But, sometimes when notable things happen in the world, like the 2020 riots, it gets turned on to minimize attempted flaming.

by Anonymousreply 581July 22, 2022 5:23 PM

I wonder if Harry knew he got Rory McIlroy's leftovers? Some friends work at UNHCR in Geneva and UNICEF. One had met Angelina Jolie and said she was a total airhead. It seems unknown actresses are desperate to get gigs as Goodwill Ambassadors for any UN agency they can, to get publicity. Their agents would constantly send in resumes, harassing staff to get a "job" for their actress to "do good" and get publicity. Then the agents would insist they needed 1st class travel, 1st class hotel accommodations, endless perks - all on the UN's bill. When actresses failed to score with anybody at the UN, they'd send their resumes to various NGOs, some nobody had ever heard of, like the one Markle did.

They call it the Audrey Hepburn Clone Experience.

by Anonymousreply 582July 22, 2022 5:40 PM

Looks like the link to the PDF was taken down by the owner. Here is a new one. Download the PDF to your Google drive, or your device if you want to keep it.

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by Anonymousreply 583July 22, 2022 5:41 PM

Another interesting tidbit. When Meghan realized that UK charity laws meant Sussex Royal would have to report every cent it earned, it gave her more incentive to go back to America with it's more liberal charity laws.

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by Anonymousreply 584July 22, 2022 5:42 PM

Opened part three, since this one is almost at 600

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by Anonymousreply 585July 22, 2022 5:44 PM

R584 and she couldn't take Sussex Royal with her as planned, because BP legally forbid it. And after all the exoensive trademarking too.

by Anonymousreply 586July 22, 2022 5:49 PM

[quote]The threads, and the entire site slows down for a large portion of the day, when prime time gets turned on

It's the opposite. The site speeds up during primetime because so many fewer people are posting.

by Anonymousreply 587July 22, 2022 6:05 PM

This tally's nicely with R582's comments;

Soon after the New York visit, Meghan flew to the Cayman Islands. Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne had arranged for her to address a financial company’s annual conference. Fixing the gig had been a hard sell. Meghan’s main selling-point was her low cost. As an unknown her fee was $15,000 plus expenses, and a business-class air ticket. Her request for first- class was rejected. Although Meghan could only make the same speech about women’s rights that she had delivered to the UN in 2014 and every occasion since then, Nelthorpe-Cowne promised a good performance. Once the contract was agreed, Meghan urged Nelthorpe-Cowne to arrange for Jessica Mulroney to be included in the trip at the client’s expense. ‘She’s my best friend,’ said Meghan, ‘and I need her as my beautician and stylist.’ More important, Meghan needed Mulroney to provide a confidante’s reassurance. Meghan’s wish was granted. Throughout the trip, Meghan repeatedly asked Mulroney, ‘What shall I do after acting?’

by Anonymousreply 588July 22, 2022 6:06 PM

Tits must have really got in Megantoinette's head. That's quite fascinating. Especially when she then backburnered her anyway (at the very least) when Tits got caught in her own scandal over alleged bullying. The tales she could tell...

by Anonymousreply 589July 22, 2022 7:04 PM

This book is available on Z Library and Library Genesis, the free download/pirate text sites, for those who simply can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 590July 22, 2022 10:04 PM

r587 Umm...no. It would be nice if the site sped up during PrimeTime, but it slows to a crawl.

by Anonymousreply 591July 22, 2022 10:05 PM

[quote] It’s possible that Windsor men, such as Edward VII and Charles, like bossy mother figures.

Call them bossy nanny figures and you've nailed it. They're looking to replicate that relationship with their love partners - someone to take charge, push them around, and put them down.

John Lennon was another one. Not raised by a nanny, but by a bossy and nasty aunt. Cynthia didn't cut it for John because she was too meek and mild, nothing like his Aunt Mimi. Yoko treated him the way Mimi had, so he fell madly in dependent love with her.

by Anonymousreply 592July 22, 2022 10:12 PM

My late mother had a husband like that. He was a very quiet and sweet man. We would beg her to be nicer to him. She’d say “He can get up and leave any time he wants. He’s just fine with the way I treat him. Aren’t you, Robert?”

“Yes, dear.”

by Anonymousreply 593July 22, 2022 11:11 PM

That was the dynamic between my own parents, too. I used to feel sorry for my dad and in some ways still do but clearly there was something in him that needed a domineering woman to run shit.

by Anonymousreply 594July 22, 2022 11:27 PM

I wonder how much Oprah was just blowing smoke at Meghan wanting her exclusive. I bet even Oprah didn’t think it would implode that fast or that Meghan wouldn’t play even a medium long game.

Oh, you are modernizing the monarchy. You are the true star of the family, they clearly don’t know how to use you. Maybe let me inside the palace? Let me introduce Archie to America?

Oh, you’re gone from there now. Yes, sure ... you absolutely need a huge place in Montecito to be around power brokers. You have a global platform. You just need to do an interview with me and tell your truth ....

by Anonymousreply 595July 23, 2022 5:46 AM

There have been more extraordinary revelations:

Bower says he spent two days with Meghan’s father Thomas, noting that her mother Doria is “odd”, and that she disappeared for 10 years while Meghan was mainly reared by Thomas.

He wrote how in late 2016 Harry met with Prince Charles and Camilla to discuss Meghan’s arrangements in regards to her acting career and police protection. “In one version Camilla remarked wouldn’t it be funny if your child had ginger Afro hair. Harry laughed. Meghan’s reaction to that conversation turned amusement into fury.”

In the drip-feed of publicity about the book in Britain, contacts regaled me with anecdotes about their own brushes with Meghan.

One reminded me that back in 2016 she had flagged Meghan’s presidential ambitions, at the time considered so far-fetched as to be ridiculous. Another recalled how in the months before Meghan was preparing to marry Harry she had an in-depth discussion with royal aides about what her “appearance fee” should be for when she carried out royal duties.

“She couldn’t understand that being a royal involved long selfless days of charity work and attending openings, and she was wanting to be paid to turn up,” a royal insider told me. “She believed she was now an international celebrity, and didn’t understand that it was different to being a royal, and she believed she should get financially compensated.”

Another recounted to me how Meghan was mooching around Ireland in 2014 angling to meet the then single golfer Rory McIlroy while she was in a relationship with Canadian chef Cory Vitiello. She would stay with Vitiello, only ending that relationship soon after meeting Harry, Bower details.

“Later when she started dating Harry, the Irish rugby boys would tease Rory, telling him he had dodged a bullet.”

by Anonymousreply 596July 23, 2022 5:58 AM

What is a recurring theme in the book - at least the half that I've completed - is how many women, and men, were "reduced to tears" by Megs cunt from Hell demeanor. This commentary on Megs inate viciousness toward those who did not serve her immediate demands does affirm all of the bullying accusations and high turnover of her staff. The "Megs made Kate cry" confirmation from Revenge, by Tom Bower, Page 189-190:

[quote] That disagreement was followed by an argument about the length of Charlotte’s hem. Kate thought it was too short, and anyway did not fit. Melissa Toubati, Meghan’s assistant, and the dress-fitters employed by Givenchy’s Clare Waight Keller, witnessed Meghan emphatically reject Kate’s observation. Compromise was not a trait Meghan embraced. The stand-offs, Kate decided, confirmed the complaints by Toubati and other members of staff about Meghan. Kate burst into tears. Kirstie Allsopp, a friend of Camilla, would later confirm that Kate was reduced to tears by Meghan bullying her staff.

[quote] After leaving that unhappy scene Kate decided to make amends. She crossed the Kensington Palace corridor and presented Meghan with a bunch of flowers. Kate also told Meghan not to speak rudely to her staff. ‘That’s unacceptable.’375 What followed can never be irrefutably established. In Kate’s version, Meghan slammed the door in her face and threw the flowers in a dustbin. Meghan would tell Oprah Winfrey that the tears were shed by her, not Kate, and the flowers were an apology.

by Anonymousreply 597July 23, 2022 6:09 AM

From Meghan's now deleted blog:

I’m an actor. I have made a career of saying other people’s words for a living and making them sound believable. Yes, we color them with nuance and add subtext to the writing, but at the end of the day I can hide behind the character. It’s their words, their choices. The writer puts them on paper and I give them a voice. Simply speaking, I am the vehicle.

On her father:

He helped me turn my bathroom into a darkroom when I was twelve because I wanted to be a photographer - shading my windows in red lighting gels and filling my cabinets with extra jugs of fixer. He put gas in my car when I went from audition trying to make it as an actress. He is the person who believed in this grand dream of mine well before I could even see it as a possibility. He taught me to write thank you notes, to always arrive early, to drink Arnold Palmers, to find my light when I’m on camera…and beyond.

And that, right there, is the point: my dad taught me to find my light. And he taught me to always make my own box.

To my dad - my thoughtful, inspiring, hardworking Daddy - Happy Father’s Day. ‘If I had all the water in the world, I’d give all the water to you…’ (You won’t get that quote, but he will. And for Father’s Day, that’s all that matters).”

by Anonymousreply 598July 23, 2022 6:12 AM

According to some other excerpts from the book so called Trump hating virtuous Harry and Meghan were introduced to big Trump supporter and ally Tom Barrack billionaire by Oprah Winfrey and sat in his house watching the crown on Netflix with him.

They really are total and utter hypocrites of the worst kind.

by Anonymousreply 599July 23, 2022 6:14 AM

I found THIS the most disturbing fact of all:

"Bower details how Hollywood producer Brett Ratner helped Markle launch her acting career."

Talk about fill in the blanks!!!

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